Mr. LIEBELER. Where did you go to school? Mr. MURRET. Holy Rosary primary and St. Aloysius High School and St. Louis University and Loyola University. Mr. LIEBELER. Do you hold a degree from Loyola University? Mr. MURRET. Yes, sir. Mr. LIEBELER. A Bachelor's Degree? Mr. MURRET. A Bachelor's Degree. Mr. LIEBELER. What did you major in? Mr. MURRET. Secondary education, minor in chemistry. Mr. LIEBELER. Did you have occasion to see Lee Oswald during the summer of 1963? Mr. MURRET. Yes, sir. Mr. LIEBELER. Would you tell us about that, starting with the first time you saw him. Tell us the circumstances under which you met him, the conversations that you had. Tell us about the various times that you did see him during the summer of 1963, what you did during that period of time, as far as Oswald is concerned. Mr. MURRET. Well, actually there was not too much contact that I did have with him. Since I did live in the house and did---- Mr. LIEBELER. At 757 French Street? Mr. MURRET. 757 French Street. The first contact I think I had with him, we ordinarily--sometimes when I am working in that particular neighborhood, I would come home for lunch, and he was there at this particular occasion with his little bag and so forth. Mr. LIEBELER. Now can you tell me approximately when that was? Mr. MURRET. Tell you the truth, I can't recall, but as you mentioned, you know, during the summer. Evidently it was during the summer. I am not too sure. Mr. LIEBELER. Would it have been some time in May perhaps of 1963, or can't you---- Mr. MURRET. I can't recall. I could have recalled then, but I am kind of confused now on it. Mr. LIEBELER. So you came home to lunch on this particular day and Oswald was there? Mr. MURRET. He was gone to the grocery. When he came back, that is when, you know, well, like my mother said, she said, "Guess who was here," and I think I guessed it, you know, and he went to the grocery to get a loaf of bread, I think it was, and he just came back. But there was no particular other contact that I could say I had with him other than--you know, he talking about maybe Russia or something, but mostly, you know, the food and drink and, you know, different environments that they have. That is the only thing I can say about it. Mr. LIEBELER. You say that he did talk about his time in Russia, and that basically it was in terms of the kind of living conditions that they had and the way the people live their lives in Russia? Mr. MURRET. Yes, sir. Mr. LIEBELER. Did he indicate to you in any way that he had received better treatment while he was in Russia than other Russians, or did you gain an impression about that? Mr. MURRET. No, I couldn't you know, actually say that, but--in fact, I couldn't, you know. Mr. LIEBELER. Did he tell you at all why he went to Russia in the first place?