Mr. JENNER. O.K. That was in April of 1955; is that right? Mrs. EVANS. Yes, and I never saw her after that. Mr. JENNER. You never saw her again? Mrs. EVANS. No; I didn't. Mr. JENNER. You didn't see her at Exchange Alley? Mrs. EVANS. No. Mr. JENNER. She never came to visit you? Mrs. EVANS. No; she was angry about the apartment, because I made her give it up. I mean I wouldn't give it back to her after she moved away. I don't think she ever got over that. Mr. JENNER. She didn't come to visit you any more at all? Mrs. EVANS. No; she didn't. Mr. JENNER. She didn't get in touch with you at all? Mrs. EVANS. No. Mr. JENNER. When was the next time you heard from or heard about, Margie or Lee? Mrs. EVANS. The next thing I heard, they had moved back to Texas. They had left town. Mr. JENNER. Where did you hear that? Mrs. EVANS. Well, her sister, Lillian, I saw her in Holmes or--let's see, maybe it was at the Fontainbleau, at a card party we were having--yes; I think that was it; she asked me if I had seen Margie, and I said, "No; I haven't seen or heard from Margie," and that's when she told me that she had heard Margie had moved back to Texas. I didn't know that at all. I had heard from several people that they had seen Margie downtown. She worked at three or four different places--you know, hosiery, and so forth, and someone would run into me every once in a while that I knew, and would say they had seen Margie downtown at some store or other, but I didn't see her, and then the next thing I knew she was supposed to be back in Texas, and then I ran into Lillian again later and she told me--this was at the Fontainbleau. Now, I have that straight. She told me then about the trouble Lee was in. Mr. JENNER. Where did you run into Lillian at that time? Mrs. EVANS. At a benefit card party. Mr. JENNER. At the Fontainbleau? Mrs. EVANS. That's right. Mr. JENNER. And what did Lillian tell you about Lee on that occasion? Mrs. EVANS. She told me that Lee was in Russia. Mr. JENNER. That Lee had defected to Russia? Mrs. EVANS. That's right. Mr. JENNER. Then, when was the next thing you heard about any of the Oswald family? Mrs. EVANS. Well, that was when Lee came to town, and they took an apartment up on Magazine Street. I can't remember that date now, but Lee got here a day or two before his wife came in. Mr. JENNER. Would that have been in May of 1963? Mrs. EVANS. Well, I don't remember the date, but it seems like it was about the middle of May; maybe about May 16, or somewhere close to that. Mr. JENNER. Was that when he took the apartment at 4905 Magazine Street? Mrs. EVANS. Yes. Was that May 16? Mr. JENNER. No; I think it was a little earlier than that, according to our information.