Mr. EVANS. You mean this boy? Mr. JENNER. Yes, Oswald; what was his status with relation to income or the amount of money he possessed, or anything like that? What did you learn about that? Mr. EVANS. Well I don't think he had any money. Mr. JENNER. That was your impression; that he had no money, or any outside source of money? Mr. EVANS. Yes. He couldn't even afford a nice apartment for his wife and child. He had to get the cheapest apartment he could find, because we had friends that had other places that he could have gotten, but he couldn't afford anything better. He did not have money; that's what seemed to be so odd, to our way of thinking, when we heard those rumors and reports that he was getting money from other sources to do all of this stuff that he seemed to be getting into. We just figured if he was getting any other money, then he would be living in a better place and taking better care of his family, but he couldn't afford to pay for anything. Mr. JENNER. Then you saw no evidence of him having any money? Mr. EVANS. No. Mr. JENNER. Do you think it possible that he might have received any substantial quantities from any other source? Mr. EVANS. No; I don't. Even his clothing was bad, all worn, and he didn't have a coat on that I ever saw. Mr. JENNER. No coat? Mr. EVANS. Just a sport shirt is all, when I saw him. I don't know of any other income he could have had. Of course, his mother might have been helping him. If it was possible, I know she would have helped him. I don't think his brothers helped him any. Mr. JENNER. Does anything else occur to you that might be helpful to the Commission in its investigation; anything that I might not have asked you about, or that I just didn't know about, and that you think might be of assistance to us in this investigation? Mr. EVANS. No; not a thing. Mr. JENNER. Now, this deposition will be transcribed by the reporter, and you have the privilege under the law of reading and signing your deposition. However, you don't have to do that. You can waive that right and let the reporter transcribe the deposition, and it will be forwarded direct to Washington, to the Commission. Now, what is your preference in that regard? Mr. EVANS. I will waive that. Mr. JENNER. You will waive that privilege? Mr. EVANS. Yes; I can't think of anything else besides what I have already told you. I didn't actually know Lee too well, because he just wasn't the type of man you could get close to. He just sort of lived in his own world, I guess you would say, and he didn't want friends, or at least that was my impression, and I did have enough contact with him that I could arrive at my own opinion. Mr. JENNER. All right, Mr. Evans. Thank you very much for coming in voluntarily and answering these questions. TESTIMONY OF PHILIP EUGENE VINSON