Mr. JENNER. Excuse me--I'm sure that positively is affirmative? Mr. MAMANTOV. Affirmative. Mr. JENNER. By the way, as long as we are now interrupted again, what time was this--5:30 or 6 o'clock. Mr. MAMANTOV. I would say it's 5:30, because going to the police station I met my wife coming from work, which should be 5:30 or 6 o'clock, I would say. Then, she was asked if Oswald spent that night in Mrs. Paine's home at that time, that night from 21 to 22 of November. Mr. JENNER. The previous evening? Mr. MAMANTOV. The previous evening and including the night. Mr. JENNER. Yes. Mr. MAMANTOV. She affirmed that. Then, how did he get up? She said he had an alarm clock on and this was the way he got up and he went into kitchen and supposedly had breakfast. They asked her also if usually she prepared breakfast for him, and if I remember right, she said usually she did, but this particular morning she didn't because she was tired and she had to get up to take care of her baby in an hour or so, so she didn't get up and he went into the kitchen and was supposed to eat breakfast. Now---- Mr. JENNER. Excuse me. Was she questioned, or did she say anything about whether, when he left the bedroom and went into the kitchen to make his breakfast, whether he returned to her and said goodby to her? Mr. MAMANTOV. No; as far as I remember he didn't return. I mean, I don't think the question was asked to her. Or, it is in my mind that he didn't return, relating the conversation to that particular time. Mr. JENNER. Excuse me, Mr. Mamantov, may I say this--I don't want any of my questions to induce you to make a response that you don't recall definitely. Mr. MAMANTOV. No; I understand. Mr. JENNER. There are bits of information that we have of things we would like to find out. Do you have a definite recollection that the subject was even brought up at that time, that is, whether he returned from the kitchen to the bedroom to say goodby to her before he left or are you refreshing your memory, is what I am getting at? If you have no recollection, I would prefer you say so. Mr. MAMANTOV. No; I'll put it this way. I remember conversations somewhere along the line that he did return to her room. I remember also when she got up she was wondering that he didn't eat breakfast; apparently coffee was poured or prepared either by him or by her, which, I don't remember, and he didn't eat breakfast, and this was after he left, we'll say, a few minutes. Mr. JENNER. Don't let me interrupt you here before you finish your answers--do I gather correctly that what you are saying is that she stated there that night that she did go out to the kitchen? Mr. MAMANTOV. That morning. Mr. JENNER. That morning--that she did go out to the kitchen that morning and she found that he had not prepared any breakfast?