Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes. I received what you called--master's degree, probably equivalent, because they don't have bachelor's degree there. You get immediately a master's degree--a license--in finance and in maritime transportation--another year of maritime transportation. Mr. JENNER. And you attended this institute for 4 years, did you not? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. For 5 years. Mr. JENNER. Well, you received---- Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes; all the degrees you can get there. Mr. JENNER. This is one of the oldest commercial institutions of higher learning in Europe? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes. Mr. JENNER. Something like the Harvard Business School? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes; founded by Napoleon. Mr. JENNER. And you received a---- Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. It is a mixture of some engineering and commercial--not exactly like Harvard School of Business Administration. It lets you carry on industrial and business activities, with a specialization in maritime transportation. Mr. JENNER. There is some indication that your degree is one of master of arts in commercial, financial, and counsular sciences. Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes. Mr. JENNER. Now, you continued on--after you received that master's degree, you continued on for another year, did you not? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes. Mr. JENNER. No; you entered---- Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I entered the University of Liege. Mr. JENNER. And how long did you study there? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Two years. Mr. JENNER. And you ultimately received a degree, did you not? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes. Mr. JENNER. What was that degree? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Doctor of science in international commerce. Mr. JENNER. Did you write a doctorate thesis? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes. Mr. JENNER. On what subject was it? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. It was the subject of the economic influence of the United States on Latin America. Mr. JENNER. Had you already acquired, through that, an interest in Latin America? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes, yes. Mr. JENNER. And you have pursued that in subsequent years, have you not? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes; a very useful dissertation it was. Mr. JENNER. Now, we have you--let's see, this is about 5 years--you are about---- Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. 1938. Mr. JENNER. We are up in 1938. Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes. Mr. JENNER. Now,---- Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. In the meantime, my brother came to visit me from the United States. We had not seen each other since 1920. He was studying--he was pursuing his career, and eventually got married. Mr. JENNER. To Miss McAdoo? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. No; that is my uncle. My brother married a lady by the name of Betty Cartright Hooker. Mr. JENNER. That is right. And you were in partnership at one time with Edward Hooker, were you not? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. That is right. Mr. JENNER. I will get to that in a moment. She is still living, is she not? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. She still is living; yes, sir.