Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. We were trying to out-bid them. I think the United States were not at war yet at the time. Mr. JENNER. That is right. Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. And so the French intelligence devised a system whereby they could prevent the Germans and Italians from buying oil by outbidding them on the free market. We went to Texas. We had some contacts there with oil companies. And also in California. There we met the Superior Oil people of California and other people, too, whose names now I have forgotten. Mr. JENNER. When was that work completed? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Well, I could not tell you exactly, but I think it is about--it was not completed. We just somehow petered out. Mr. JENNER. Were you compensated? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. No--just my expenses, traveling expenses, and daily allowance. It was handled by Mr. Fraiss. But no salary. Mr. JENNER. Had you---- Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I think this whole thing, when the United States got into war there was no more activity on their part, you know. Mr. JENNER. Well, there was no need to outbid the Germans, because they could not buy oil here anyhow. Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. That is right. So that is how it ended. Mr. JENNER. You mentioned a Mrs. Williams. Was that Margaret Williams? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes. Mr. JENNER. And she made a bequest to you of $5,000, wasn't it? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes--I think $5,000--I thought it was $10,000, frankly. Mr. JENNER. Do you remember being interviewed in February 1945? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. By whom? Mr. JENNER. Some agents of the Immigration and Naturalization Service. Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. In 1945? Mr. JENNER. Yes. Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. They interviewed me a couple of times. Mr. JENNER. Well, you have been interviewed more than once. Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes. Mr. JENNER. Well, at that time you are reported to have said that Mrs. Williams left you the sum of $5,000, and I suggest to you that your recollection was better in 1945 than it is now. Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes. Mr. JENNER. Now, at or about the time that you were doing work with Mr. Fraiss, did you meet a lady by the name of Lilia Pardo Larin? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes. Mr. JENNER. She was in this country, was she? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes. Mr. JENNER. Tell us about that. Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Oh, boy. Do you want to have everything about me? Okay. I met her through a Brazilian friend of mine. Mr. JENNER. What was his name? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. The King of Bananas of Brazil--his name will come back to me. Dr.--I forgot his name. Anyway, a rich Brazilian, medical doctor, very wealthy man, who traveled between Brazil and New York. Just recently I was talking about him with the Brazilian Ambassador in Haiti, and he says he is still alive and doing very well. Dr. Palo Machado, Decio de Paulo Machado. An enormously wealthy Brazilian, who calls himself the banana king, who liked American girls, the good life, and very good businessman at the same time.