Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Towards communism, I wouldn't like to live in a Communist regime, I am not a Communist, never have been one. But if somebody likes it, let them have it. And I get along very well with fellow workers who are Communists. For instance, in Yugoslavia, I got along very well with them. Of course, we didn't discuss politics very much out there. On the contrary, you have to stay away from that subject. But I consider the other person's point of view. If somebody is a Communist, let them be a Communist. That is his business. Mr. JENNER. Have you---- Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I do not try to propagandize him, and I see some good characteristics in communism. Mr. JENNER. There are some indications that you have expressed that view from time to time during your lifetime while you are in this country, that there are some good qualities in communism. Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes. Mr. JENNER. Now, there we mean--or what do you mean? What is your concept of communism? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I am looking at communism more or less more from the economic point of view. I think it is a system that can work and works, and possibly for a very poor man, and a very undeveloped nation it may be a solution. Mr. JENNER. A temporary one? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. A temporary one, yes--which eventually, and I believe in evolution, and I have seen through my life that communism in certain places has developed into a livable type of an economy, a way of life. Now, I repeat, again, that I would not like to live there. Otherwise, I would be there. Because I am too independent in my thinking, and I like business to be free. But---- Mr. JENNER. You like individual freedom and free enterprise? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. That is right. Mr. JENNER. Which you find in the United States? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. That is right. Mr. JENNER. And while you can see some benefits in communism as to persons of limited means, and poor countries, for initial development, you think that for a higher level of economic or cultural development communism is not good? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. That is right. Mr. JENNER. Is that about it? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Exactly. Mr. JENNER. I don't want to put words in your mouth. Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Exactly. Now, I am very much influenced by a book called "Poor Countries and Rich Countries," by the editor of the Economist in London, which expresses my ideas on economics of the world as it is today. It is a book which says that--which is available any place here--which says that the world today is divided into poor countries and rich countries, and that the question of communism and socialism is for ignoramuses. That freedom can exist in both types of economies--could exist eventually.