And on the way there we stopped occasionally in towns, received our mail, through the American Embassy and consulates, visited some of the friends we have out there. In other words, we led a life close to nature for a whole year. Mr. JENNER. Were you in Mexico City during this trip? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. No; because our route kept us away from Mexico City. Mr. JENNER. At any time during that trip was Mikoyan in Mexico? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Oh, yes. That I have to tell this incident; that is interesting. This is completely a different incident. I went to Mexico City, I guess, with--a year before that, on behalf of---- Mr. JENNER. Just a minute. Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. This is another consulting job. Mr. JENNER. When did you make your walking trip through Mexico? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. That was the end of 1960 and 1961--all of 1961. Mr. JENNER. That took about 8 months? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Almost a year. Mr. JENNER. So you would return in the late fall of 1961? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. 1961. Mr. JENNER. November, I believe. Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes; I remember that. Mr. JENNER. Now, the occasion when Mikoyan was in Mexico was some other occasion? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. A different occasion; yes. Mr. JENNER. As long as we have raised it at this point, we might as well complete it. Tell us about that. Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. About this Mikoyan incident? Mr. JENNER. Yes. Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Well, I went to Mexico City on behalf of Texas Eastern Corp., which is a gas company in Houston, which has a contract with the Mexican Government for the purchase of gas. In other words, this corporation is buying gas from Mexico at the border. Mr. JENNER. We talk about gas here--we are talking about natural gas? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Natural gas; yes. And this contract was in jeopardy--somebody else wanted to take it. And Texas Eastern, which is the corporation, a very large powerplant corporation which has the Big Inch from Texas to the east--through their vice president, John Jacobs, asked me to go to Mexico, since I am familiar with the country, and try to figure out in which way we can keep that contract. And while in Mexico, we had to entertain all the officials of the Mexican Government. Mr. JENNER. You say "we." Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. My wife went with me. Mr. JENNER. Your present wife? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes. Mr. JENNER. When did this take place? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. It was--I think it was in 1959. I cannot swear you about the dates. But about 1959. Or early in 1960--one or the other. I went to Mexico on other jobs before, many times. But this particular job, since you are interested in the Mikoyan deal, which you call it, was this particular---- Mr. JENNER. Did I say deal or incident? I think I said incident.