Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. No political implications. I am not interested at all in politics. Naturally, when I was going there I could not help seeing what was going on. The dictatorship in Honduras, the civil war in Panama, the guerilla fights. But it is all recorded in my book. But I had nothing to do with it. Mr. JENNER. You went from Panama to where? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. We just arrived from the border of Texas to Panama. We performed one big chunk of--we covered a big chunk of territory which is about 5,000 miles, on foot. And, believe me, not many people can do it, you know. Mr. JENNER. When you completed that trip---- Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. When we completed this trip, we were very tired, and we decided to go and take a rest in Haiti. Mr. JENNER. Why did you select Haiti? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Well, as I said before, I had been there many times as a tourist. I have a very close friend of my father's who lived in Haiti. I speak French. And I like the country. I said we are going to visit this old man, a friend of my father's. Mr. JENNER. What is his name? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Mr. Breitman; Michael Breitman. He used to be a very wealthy man in Russia--also involved in the oil industry in Russia, and in Czarist Russia--a friend of my father's. And I discovered that he lived in Haiti sometime in 1946 and 1947 when I went as a tourist there. And we became very close. He considered me almost like his son. We went to visit him--I was worried that he might die, and he died very soon after our trip. And we stayed there for 2 months, relaxing, taking it easy. And I started preparing my contract with the Haitian Government at the same time. Mr. JENNER. Now---- Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Already then. Mr. JENNER. Then you already had in mind the venture you are now--in which you are now engaged? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes. I already started then, you see. I made the first step. I received a letter--I still have it--the letter from the Minister of Finance--that they are interested in my project, which the project is to review all the mining resources of Haiti. They don't have anybody to do that. And we kept on working on it, working and working and working, corresponding back and forth, until finally there was the contract in March 1963. In other words, it took me 2 years to get that contract. Mr. JENNER. Here, again, this is all business? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Purely business. Mr. JENNER. No political or like considerations? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. No. Mr. JENNER. You have never been a member of any subversive group? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. No; never have. Mr. JENNER. Of what groups have you been a member? And of what groups are you a member? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I am not a member of any group. Maybe that is something against me, because I am not a member of any group. I am not a member--I am not interested. I am too busy. Mr. JENNER. You are a member of the Petroleum Club in Dallas? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. If you call that a group; yes.