Mr. JENNER. Did you form an impression of him, Mr. De Mohrenschildt, as to his reliability in a different sense now--that is, whether he was reasonably mentally stable or given to violent surges of anger or lack of control of himself? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Of course, he was that. The fact that we took his wife away from him, you know, was the result of his outbursts and his threats to his wife. Mr. JENNER. What kind of threats? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Well, that he will beat the hell out of her. I think Marina told me that he threatened to kill her. It comes back to my mind, you see. You asked me yesterday a question, what actually precipitated us taking Marina and the little child away from Oswald. Mr. JENNER. You actually took Marina and the child away? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes. So what actually precipitated that? Something must have precipitated it. I cannot recall what it was. But now I seem to vaguely remember that Marina said that he would kill her, that he will beat her sometime so hard that he will kill her. So that is the reason we went out there and said--well, let's save that poor woman. Mr. JENNER. Where were they living then? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. They were living then at the first address in Oak Cliff--Ruth Street, I think. It is a two-story brick building. Mr. JENNER. Mercedes? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Ruth Street. I do not remember Mercedes Street. Mr. JENNER. Elsbeth? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Elsbeth--yes. Mr. JENNER. He never lived on any street by the name of Ruth. Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. No. Mr. JENNER. Yesterday you adverted, I thought, to a concept that this man seemed--he responded when you would bring him into a conversation or situation. Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes. Mr. JENNER. That he was somewhat egocentric in that respect? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Very much so. And that is probably the reason that he was clinging to me. He was clinging to me. He would call me. He would try to be next to me--because, let's face it, I am a promotor and a salesman. So I know how to talk with people. I usually do not offend people's feelings. When I talk to people, I am interested in them. And he appreciated that in me. The other people considered him, well, he is just some poor, miserable guy, and disregarded him. Mr. JENNER. Now, I would like to go into that a moment. It gradually developed, did it, that the people in the Russian colony, their curiosity--they had curiosity at the outset, and they had interest at the outset. Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. That's right. Mr. JENNER. They met him at your home and other homes? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes. Mr. JENNER. I take it you now suggest that after a while their interest in him waned? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. It disappeared mainly; yes. Mr. JENNER. And was it replaced by something else? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Dislike, mostly dislike, and fear. Mr. JENNER. What was the fear?