Mr. JENNER. Did there come a time in the spring or the midwinter of 1963, latter part of January, and in February, in which there was any discussion, or you learned that Marina had made application to the Russian Embassy to return to Russia? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. No. Mr. JENNER. No discussion? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. No discussion of that. Mr. JENNER. And except for my now uttering it, you have been wholly unaware of it? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Wholly unaware of it. Totally unaware of that, never heard of that. What we learned, at that period--that she had her child christened in the Greek Orthodox Church against Oswald's strong objections. Mr. JENNER. Were you personally aware of those objections? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. No. I just heard that he objected to Marina doing it--and she took the child to church anyway and had the child christened. But I do not recall the circumstances. Somebody told me that. Mr. JENNER. But you are unaware of any discussion of her returning to Russia in the spring or late winter of 1962--1963, that winter? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. No. Mr. JENNER. And she never appealed to you that he was forcing her to make application to the Russian Embassy? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I do not recall anything of that kind. Mr. JENNER. Mr. De Mohrenschildt, it appears to be the consensus in that Russian colony, that community, that Oswald reached a point where he resented all the people other than you; that he had a liking for you. Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Well, I explained to you that I do not know whether he had a liking or not. Mr. JENNER. Or respect, or something. Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I treated him nicely. My wife treated them like human beings, disregarding their bad qualities. Because that is our way of treating poor people. My philosophy is--you may object to that--but my philosophy is not to bend in front of the strong and be very nice to the poor--as nice as I can. And they were very miserable, lost, penniless, mixed up. So as much as they both annoyed me, I did not show it to them because it is like insulting a beggar--you see what I mean. Well, the other Russians obviously do not have such a charitable attitude. I do not think he has ever been, for instance--I am trying to think whether he had a resentment against all of the Russian colony or not. I would not say so. I do not know how was his attitude toward Mr. Gregory. I think they remained pretty--not close, but on speaking terms. Mr. JENNER. That seems to be so. Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Because Mr. Gregory is a very fine person--very fine person, who is an elderly man, who is nice to a poor person. Mr. JENNER. Your impression is that he, to use the vernacular a little bit--he was sort of eating on himself, he wanted to amount to something, and he appeared to be unable to, and was constantly groping.