Mr. LIEBELER. When did they show up at your house again for the second time? Mr. BALLEN. They left my house 2 Sundays ago, and they would have been at my house a total of 2 weeks. They would have arrived at my house at about March 2, something like that. They would have arrived at my house March 1, and left March 15, more or less. Mr. LIEBELER. Will you state for us, as best you can recall, the conversations that you had with Rags and Chris concerning these remarks allegedly made by De Mohrenschildt while they stayed at your house. Mr. BALLEN. This information was brought to me by Rags and Chris that they were very much upset about it. And I told Rags that probably all of George's mail was being intercepted in and out, and that I felt that sooner or later he would be called before the Warren Commission. The FBI had already interviewed me, I told Rags, and that distressed him a little bit that the FBI was probably intercepting his mail and probably had a tail on him. He thought I was kidding, and I said, no; that this was a pretty serious item and that probably he was under surveillance, and so he then took the initiative to call the FBI and said if they wanted to see him, he was out there, and he would be leaving for parts unknown, and so they came out to my house and interviewed him. Mr. LIEBELER. Do you know whether Rags told the FBI about the remarks that De Mohrenschildt was alleged to have made? Mr. BALLEN. I do not. I was out of the house when the FBI agent was there, but I kept myself elsewhere in that building, not in the room where they were. Mr. LIEBELER. Do you know the name of the agent who came out? Mr. BALLEN. He was one of the agents who interviewed me from California. Had a very nice tan, but I don't know his name. Mr. LIEBELER. One of the two agents that interviewed you when? Mr. BALLEN. About March 6th or 7th. Mr. LIEBELER. The interview that you have just referred to concerns your acquaintanceship with De Mohrenschildt? Mr. BALLEN. That's correct. Mr. LIEBELER. Would it refresh your recollection if I advised you that the names of the agent that interviewed you were W. James Wood and Raymond P. Yelchek? Mr. BALLEN. The gentleman who came out to my house was Mr. Wood. Mr. LIEBELER. It was Mr. Wood that interviewed Rags, is that correct? Mr. BALLEN. That's correct. Mr. LIEBELER. Did Rags discuss with you the interview after the agent had left? Mr. BALLEN. No. Mr. LIEBELER. Did Rags tell you anything about his conversations with De Mohrenschildt after De Mohrenschildt had allegedly made this remark that the FBI was responsible for the assassination of the President? Mr. BALLEN. Just to the extent that he or Chris had protested vigorously on politics generally with George, and as I had already known before Rags came to my house, the visit in Haiti had deteriorated into quite a personality clash. I had gotten a letter from George which showed that he was very critical on personal grounds of Rags.