Mr. JENNER. Now, can you recall anything else that occurred during this day when you were with them for a good many hours? Mrs. DYMITRUK. No; with her. Mr. JENNER. Yes--with her. Mrs. DYMITRUK. Well, I asked her if she like United States. She says, "United States, I do--but not everything" I said, "What you mean--not everything?" "Well, just the same problem--the hospitalization and the doctors." I said to her that in United States we have, when you work with a company, you have insurance. You pay just a little every month and then if you go to the hospital, the insurance company will pay. Mr. JENNER. Yes. Mrs. DYMITRUK. That's how I explain to her. "Well, in Russia, when a baby is born in Russia--my baby was born in Russia, and they took care and when I come home from the hospital there was a nurse for 8 days in my room who took care of the baby--and why is it not in United States like this?" I said to her, "Well, you just can't compare two countries--Russia and United States." I said, "I am longer here and I can explain so you will understand." Mr. JENNER. And did you explain to her? Mrs. DYMITRUK. I explained about this hospitalization what we have here. Mr. JENNER. Uh-huh. Mrs. DYMITRUK. "Well," she said, "it's still too expensive. If you have to go doctor, you pay the visit." I said, "You can go to the hospital--to the Parkland Hospital and it cost you nothing because they don't charge you anything." Mr. JENNER. Yes. Mrs. DYMITRUK. "If you have your own doctor, for example, if you go to doctor, then you pay $10 or $5 or something like that." I said, "Why, that's nothing." "Well, I can't afford it." I said, "Well, that's why I'm taking you to hospital--to Parkland Hospital--to see the doctor and you don't have to pay anything." That was the only--what she complained about. Mr. JENNER. But otherwise she thought well of the United States? Mrs. DYMITRUK. She liked it. Mr. JENNER. She wanted to stay? Mrs. DYMITRUK. She want to stay; yes. Mr. JENNER. In any event, she did not want to go back to Russia? Mrs. DYMITRUK. No. Mr. JENNER. But she told you that her husband did want to return to Russia? Mrs. DYMITRUK. Yes. Mr. JENNER. With her? Mrs. DYMITRUK. Yes. Mr. JENNER. Do you remember specifically now? Mrs. DYMITRUK. Yes; I remember. Yes. Mr. JENNER. You have a firm recollection that it was that he wanted to go back with her? Mrs. DYMITRUK. With her. And she said, "I don't want to go. If he want to go, he can go by himself. I stay here." Mr. JENNER. Now, did she say anything, during the course of this time you were with her, about her husband's attitude toward the United States? Mrs. DYMITRUK. She told me that he was unhappy and that he was very disappointed; that he would lose jobs just because that he was in Russia and the people find out that he was in Russia, so he's on the street. Mr. JENNER. Uh-huh. Mrs. DYMITRUK. And that's why he was always so upset. Mr. JENNER. I see. All right.