Mr. GERACI. Well, this was summer, last summer, some place around the beginning of it, and--you want me to tell you everything about it? Mr. LIEBELER. Yes. Mr. GERACI. Well, I was down there with a friend. [Addressing mother.] Do you think I should give his name? (Mrs. Geraci nodded assent.) Mr. LIEBELER. Please do. You were down where? Mr. GERACI. Down there in New Orleans, I mean on Canal Street. We had to go to some radio shop. It was Bill Dwyer. That is a friend. And we were down there and we wanted to go in radio shops and everything, so I saw--going down there I saw, looking to the side, that they had a sign saying "Casa Roca," and I took Spanish in school, so I was interested, and I went in there and--well, he was a little reluctant, but we went anyway. Mr. LIEBELER. Your friend was a little reluctant? Mr. GERACI. Yes, a little bit. He didn't get mixed up in this or anything. And then, well, when we were in there, we looked around a little at everything, then I asked the man there--I didn't know it was Carlos Bringuier then--I asked him was he a Cuban. He said yes, he was an exile, and everything, you know. I asked him a few things, I guess--I don't know exactly what--you know, just a little conversation like. Then I ask him was there anything that I as an American could do. He said, well, he didn't know, to come back later. You know, he acted as though maybe--like--just like he just didn't want me to help or something like that, I guess, so we left and went home, and that was it. Mr. LIEBELER. And when did you see him again, if you did? You did see him again, didn't you? Mr. GERACI. Yes. Mr. LIEBELER. When? Mr. GERACI. I don't remember when. I remember I saw him a few times, I couldn't exactly say how many, but I went back another time when I was in town, I stopped off and saw him, and I saw him another time. Then I think it was about the fourth time that I was there that I saw Lee Harvey Oswald. Mr. LIEBELER. Now before we get to that, did you ever raise any money for Carlos' activities? Mr. GERACI. Not until the third time. Mr. LIEBELER. What happened? Mr. GERACI. No; wait. Come to think of it, I think it was about the fifth time that I saw Oswald; something like that. I remember I went back--it was about the third time--after asking him--I asked him, "Do you think it is possible to raise donations?" And he said, "Well, yes; it is possible." And he showed me these little yellow slips, sort of like yellow, and they were like receipts if you paid, and he said I could get them--you know--if I wanted to, I could, you know, go, and he could give them to me, and go and get donations and give the people this receipt and bring the money back to him. Mr. LIEBELER. So did you take some of the receipts? Mr. GERACI. Yes. Mr. LIEBELER. And did you get some money? Mr. GERACI. Yes. Mr. LIEBELER. And you gave it to Carlos? Mr. GERACI. Yes; it was about $10. Mr. LIEBELER. And you turned that money over to him?