Mrs. CUNNINGHAM. Well, you know the legislation better than I do, because I am assuming that your profession is a lawyer? Mr. JENNER. Yes; I am a lawyer, but don't presume I know anything. Mrs. CUNNINGHAM. Well, I would hate to be talking to the table [laughing]. Mr. JENNER. Mrs. Cunningham, the person who reads the record may not be a lawyer. Mrs. CUNNINGHAM. I see. Mr. JENNER. And may not understand this and my purpose is to record how the Commission functions. Mrs. CUNNINGHAM. The original legislation established the employment service and the unemployment compensation program under one law, and until about 1 year ago in Dallas, applicants for unemployment compensation applied at usually the same office for recording their availability for work and making a claim for unemployment compensation, as where the employment services were housed in the last year in this particular area, and it is not true throughout all the public employment service offices--not even in this district. We have split out the employment services from the unemployment services, but there is a coordination between the offices and in the procedures on unemployment compensation, I know the general law and the necessity for being able and available for work, while being a claimant, and I make no pretense of knowing the up-to-date details of that. Mr. JENNER. No; I wasn't seeking that. I just wanted the general picture of how they are coordinated. Mrs. CUNNINGHAM. And you see, one of the necessities for a person filing a claim for unemployment compensation is that he be registered in a public employment office. Mr. JENNER. And be available? Mrs. CUNNINGHAM. Be available and be able to work. Those are basic requirements and I think those are the same throughout the States. Mr. JENNER. Now, in the performance of your duties, your particular function with the Texas Employment Commission, did you have occasion to counsel, talk with, or examine a man by the name of Lee Harvey Oswald? Mrs. CUNNINGHAM. Yes, sir. Mr. JENNER. Tell us about that please, ma'am. If you need any of these records to refresh your recollection, please use them, and as you refer to them, would you hesitate so I can identify the exhibit to which you make reference? You may use those documents to refresh your recollection. You did have a direct contact with Lee Harvey Oswald and I would like to have you give me the time, when it commenced, and relate it to us. Mrs. CUNNINGHAM. As Mr. Statman has probably told you, a photostat of the counseling record is not here. The record I am now looking at is the application form. Mr. JENNER. Excuse me, it is the form that I described in the record, the top line of which reads, "Describe your longest and most important jobs, including Military Service. Begin with your most recent job." It is also the application form called E-13. Mrs. CUNNINGHAM. Yes; it is E-13.