I also recounted to him that one time when we were playing tennis--Mr. Meller came to the court, and he said, "I have a letter I want to show you," in a state of excitement, and I said, "You have?" And he got it out and it was from the U.S. Department of State, saying "You registered as an alien" at such and such address. "We have a request from Australia of a sister or a woman who purports to be your sister, and she is asking for your address. Do we have your permission to give it to her?" And then Teofil said, "Nowhere else in the world would any Government be this considerate of me. I am only an alien." Now, I haven't seen him because our paths haven't crossed very much in the recent years, but I think that that incident sticks with me because, again, I'm a stick in the mud--I have been in Missouri and I have been to Texas, and I just have to get some experience by reading and by studying and by talking with people, and other experiences, but when I worked at A. Harris, I talked with some of the displaced people who had been through World War II and through the horrors of that period and it was a broadening of my own experience. There was some gaining of some firsthand knowledge of the Jewish people and their history. I read some in the area. I helped them a bit with their use of English in the trade and they were all apologetic to me for involving me, you see, and I said--well, I just accepted the boy as another applicant. Mr. JENNER. It was the normal course, as far as you were concerned? Mrs. CUNNINGHAM. Yes, sir. Mr. JENNER. And you saw nothing that would lead you to believe it was other than the normal course as far as the Mellers were concerned and they were activated by charity in their hearts and desire to help out? Mrs. CUNNINGHAM. That's right, and out of their own suffering. It is my observation that people who have suffered and who have helped to share, tend to do it a little more, probably, than those who have never known what it is to starve. Mr. JENNER. Do you ever recall a conversation of whether the subject of Mr. Oswald's loss of these positions arose, and whether he said anything on that subject? Mrs. CUNNINGHAM. Which positions, please, sir? Mr. JENNER. You interviewed him 10-10--he had been employed prior thereto by Leslie Welding Co., I think? Mrs. CUNNINGHAM. Yes. Mr. JENNER. Doing sheet metal work, he says, "Made ventilators, cut sheet metal--4 months"? Mrs. CUNNINGHAM. That is a Fort Worth employer, is it not, sir? Mr. JENNER. Yes; it is. All I am seeking to do is to stimulate your recollection--if you have one--as to whether the subject ever arose in which he said he was having difficulty obtaining a position or retaining, either way, and whether he made any comments in that area? Mrs. CUNNINGHAM. No, sir; the entry which is on the application card in "Reason for leaving" is "Laid off." I do not know whose handwriting it is in, and I did not delve into that. Mr. JENNER. You didn't delve into that?