Mr. THORNLEY. Well, the officers, every so many weeks--this is mentioned somewhere in this pile of papers--every so many weeks a lieutenant is appointed to give a foreign affairs lecture or a current affairs lecture, pardon me, to the troops, at which time he explains the world situation in a half hour. I remember having one second lieutenant telling us about Dalai Lama or it was a first lieutenant and I forget what he told us, but it was something completely absurd. I think at that time the Dalai Lama had just disappeared or something, and one would get the impression, I think, that he thought the Dalai Lama was a leader in Pakistan or something. Mr. JENNER. That is the impression the lieutenant tried to convey? Mr. THORNLEY. Well, I think that was the impression the lieutenant had had when he had been assigned to give this lecture. The last minute, he got down and started going through the news magazines to get his information, got it somewhat inaccurately, and didn't particularly care whether it was accurate or not anyway. Stood up in front of the troops and reeled off the lecture, and, of course, most of the enlisted men didn't know enough to criticize him either because they weren't that interested, and that was it--with a couple of people laughing up their sleeves, and this happened later, this didn't happen at the time I knew Oswald. However, in such a situation Oswald would have been careful I am sure to raise his hand and correct the lieutenant. Mr. JENNER. I was going to get to that. During the course of these lectures did the troops as you called them engage in discussion with the instructor? Mr. THORNLEY. They were permitted to ask questions, to raise their hands to ask questions. And Oswald would have probably asked a question which would have made light of the lieutenant's ignorance. Mr. JENNER. Put the lieutenant at a disadvantage? Mr. THORNLEY. Yes. Mr. JENNER. Were you present at any times when you were at El Toro when the lectures occurred when, at that time Oswald raised his hand and engaged in dissertation? Mr. THORNLEY. I might have been but I don't recall it if I was. I recall being present at several lectures at El Toro, and it just might have happened. It was the kind of thing Oswald would do and it wouldn't even have phased me. I probably wouldn't even have bothered to remember if it had happened. It would have been just part of the daily routine there so I would have---- Mr. JENNER. Did you ever engage in that sort of thing? Mr. THORNLEY. No; I never had guts enough to stand up and tell an officer he didn't know what he was talking about. Behind his back I might tell somebody that such-and-such officer didn't know what he was talking about, but I was never quite that brash--in that particular respect, anyway. Mr. JENNER. What were your impressions on Oswald being interested in music? Mr. THORNLEY. Not being interested in music myself particularly----