Mr. JENNER. You were groping for it when you were interviewed. You suggested it might be Charles---- Mr. THORNLEY. I mentioned a Charles. Mr. JENNER. Weis. Mr. THORNLEY. Weir, but that was not the man. This was a friend of a friend of the friend or a man who could give them that information perhaps that I couldn't. At this time perhaps, also, I was thinking of a possibility it might have been Weir and since then I have remembered definitely who Weir was. Mr. JENNER. Who was he? Mr. THORNLEY. I don't remember whether his first name was Charles but I remember who he was. Mr. JENNER. He was a noncom? Mr. THORNLEY. There was a man named Cooley. There was somebody else, and these are my associations, but who it was who used to talk Russian in the ranks with Oswald in the morning I don't know, but that is who it was. Mr. JENNER. Is this particular man you now mentioned the man who occasionally talked Russian with Oswald in the ranks, is he the man who you had in mind? Mr. THORNLEY. Yes. Mr. JENNER. As having been a friend of Oswald's? Mr. THORNLEY. Yes; in that in the same respect that I was a friend of Oswald's. Once, again, the exact terminology I would use would be close acquaintance. Mr. JENNER. Yes; I would say from your description of the relationship with Oswald that it was more an acquaintanceship than a friendship. Mr. THORNLEY. I think it was probably the same with this person from what I recall, to my knowledge. Mr. JENNER. In other words, when you say friend, he wasn't a buddy of Oswald? Mr. THORNLEY. No; Oswald was not the type of person who had, as it has been emphasized on all parts, I think, and it confirms my own impression, was not the type of person who made close friends or who stuck with close friends. Mr. JENNER. You saw no instance in which Oswald evidenced affection for anybody, I mean in the nice sense of the word? Mr. THORNLEY. No; none whatsoever. Mr. JENNER. Or anybody evidenced any affection in the nice sense of the word for him? Mr. THORNLEY. No. Mr. JENNER. I take it your trip to Mexico City was purely one of general interest as you have described and had nothing to do with any interest on your part in going to Cuba or attempting to go to Cuba? Mr. THORNLEY. Believe me, no. I have no desire to go to Cuba unless I am going to take a rifle and be on an invasion force or something. Mr. JENNER. Did you hear of anybody in the Marine Corps, whose last name was Hidell? Mr. THORNLEY. At the time this name was mentioned to me that was--that person, whoever it was that Oswald used to speak to in the ranks in the morning came to my mind. But I can't say that that was the name, and I am--of course, now, I am very leery that that--very uncertain as to ever having heard the name Hidell, and I doubt it very much. Mr. JENNER. Shortly after the unfortunate occurrence of November 22, 1963, you were interviewed by Secret Service agents, were you not?