Mr. JENNER. Did you have any problems in that connection? Mrs. GIBSON. Well, I got a little dictionary and tried to figure out a few words, but it was very hard to communicate with her. Mr. JENNER. I take it then from your remark that you yourself are not fluent in Russian? Mrs. GIBSON. No. Mr. JENNER. Do you understand Russian? Mrs. GIBSON. A few words. Mr. JENNER. Your father speaks Russian fluently, does he not? Mrs. GIBSON. Yes; he does. Mr. JENNER. And your stepmother? Mrs. GIBSON. Yes. Mr. JENNER. Despite their fluency in Russian, you never acquired any fluency? You just didn't acquire any familiarity with Russian? Mrs. GIBSON. No. Mr. JENNER. Except your understanding of a few words? Mrs. GIBSON. No; I didn't. Mr. JENNER. In any event you are unable to speak it? Mrs. GIBSON. That is right. Mr. JENNER. When Oswald came to your house that evening, did he speak English or Russian? Mrs. GIBSON. He spoke English to us and Russian to Marina. Mr. JENNER. When he arrived, did he speak with his child? Mrs. GIBSON. Oh, yes. Mr. JENNER. In what language did he speak with the child? Mrs. GIBSON. Russian. Mr. JENNER. That was not merely small talk? All of his conversation with his child was in Russian? Mrs. GIBSON. Some was small talk. You could tell that he was just playing around, and when he really talked to her, it was in Russian. Of course once in a while he'd lapse into English. Mr. JENNER. You minded the child June while Marina was at the dentist? Mrs. GIBSON. That is right. Mr. JENNER. And also the following day while she was at the dentist? Mrs. GIBSON. That is right. Mr. JENNER. How did you get along with the child? Mrs. GIBSON. Not very well. Mr. JENNER. Tell us about that. Mrs. GIBSON. Pardon? I didn't understand you. Mr. JENNER. You say you didn't get along very well with the child. State it more fully to me factually; what the problems were. Mrs. GIBSON. Well, the minute Marina left, the child would start to cry. She whimpered all the time. I couldn't feed her. Every time I got near her she'd scream. She never slept. She's a very difficult child to get along with. She was not at all affectionate to anybody else but to her own parents. Mr. JENNER. Do you think she found it strange to have anyone speak to her in English as distinguished from Russian? Mrs. GIBSON. I don't know if it was the English. I don't believe she had ever been with anybody but her parents and I think that might have had a lot to do with it, plus she was very spoiled, very catered to by her mother and her father. Mr. JENNER. There were subsequent occasions when you visited the Oswalds or they visited you or Marina visited you or you visited Marina? Mrs. GIBSON. Yes. Mr. JENNER. Drawing on the whole span of your acquaintance with the Oswalds, rather than merely those first 2 days, did you ever hear Lee Oswald address his child other than in Russian?