Mrs. GIBSON. Yes. Mr. JENNER. Can you grasp in your recollection why? What led up to that? Mrs. GIBSON. I think it was the period before she went to Mrs. Hall's. It must have been after Lee lost his job, or quit. Mr. JENNER. In Fort Worth? Mrs. GIBSON. Yes; and before he got the new one. It must have been then. And I think it was while they were trying to find her a place to live, while he was job hunting. Mr. JENNER. And before he got his job with Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall? Mrs. GIBSON. It must have been. Mr. JENNER. On the 12th of October? You see that is a 4-day period, Mrs. Gibson. Mrs. GIBSON. Between when he lost his job and got his job? Mr. JENNER. That is right. Mrs. GIBSON. That is probably where she stayed then. I am not sure. Mr. JENNER. The last day he worked at Leslie Welding was the 8th of October 1962. He became employed and went to work for Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall on the 12th of October 1962. Mrs. GIBSON. That probably was when she stayed with us, then. I just don't have any recollection of when it was. Mr. JENNER. Do you have any recollection that she came to stay with you, the reason why? Was she having difficulty with Oswald? Was that the reason, or was it because he was out of work? Mrs. GIBSON. I think it was because he was out of work. I don't think they had any money. I think my father lent them money, didn't he? I don't know. Somebody must have given them money. It was Bouhe, that is who it was who lent them money. Mr. JENNER. It was only 4 days, Mrs. Gibson. Mrs. GIBSON. No; but he had to have money to get started. He had to have money to stay at the YMCA. He had to have money to get started, and I know who gave him money. George Bouhe did. Mr. JENNER. Yes; George Bouhe did, there is no question about that. Mrs. GIBSON. Because I recall that. He gave him money, and he also had the debt to pay to the American Embassy. Mr. JENNER. Do you have any recollection as to where Oswald stayed prior to the time that he went to the YMCA on the 15th of October, that is between the 8th of October and the 15th of October? That is a week. Mrs. GIBSON. No; all I know is he never did stay at our place overnight ever. Mr. JENNER. Do you recall when you were looking for this address, was it an address on North Beckley? Mrs. GIBSON. It is possible that it was. Mr. JENNER. Does that stimulate your recollection at all? Mrs. GIBSON. No; it doesn't. I just know that Beckley is near the river. Mr. JENNER. And you were looking in the area. Mrs. GIBSON. Near the river; yes. Mr. JENNER. Now, between the 19th of October and the 3d of November, which was the day you picked up Oswald and Marina and the baby and took them to the Elsbeth Street apartment, do you know where Oswald was staying?