Mr. STUCKEY. He didn't add anything other than what I have already said, but the implication was that we can do that here. "After all, you know here I have this organization and I am doing this. They probably would not let me do a similar thing in Russia," and this was his tone. Mr. JENNER. Do you have any impression as to his regard or judgment with respect to the government in which he was, whose privileges he was then exercising? Mr. STUCKEY. No; he had given lip service a time or two to the fact that he considered himself a loyal American. He was constantly referring to rights, constitutional rights, and he made some historical references. He illustrated the development of these rights in America. Mr. JENNER. Did this informal conversation at Comeaux's Bar go on, you said, for about an hour? Mr. STUCKEY. Approximately an hour. Mr. JENNER. Was he comfortable in the sense--was he eager, was he pleased---- Mr. STUCKEY. He was relaxed, he was friendly. He seemed to be relieved it was all over. My impression was he was relieved that he did not have to hide the bit about the Russian residence any more, and that it had been a strain doing so, because his manner was completely different. There wasn't the stiffness or the guarded words and guarded replies. He seemed fairly open, and I have no reason to believe that everything he told me that night was not true. I think it was true. Mr. JENNER. Was there any difference in his attitude or demeanor with respect to personal self-confidence, for example, in that Saturday interview at his home and your interview with him prior to the Monday night broadcast, taking that as a base, and comparing it with his attitude in Comeaux's Bar after you had revealed the fact that he had been in Russia and had attempted to defect? Mr. STUCKEY. Well, there wasn't any change. He was pretty consistent in his behavior from the very first time I met him until Comeaux's Bar, so this was the only notable change I observed. The manner was always guarded, even from the very first when he came out on his porch on August 17 in his dungarees, his manner was guarded. Mr. JENNER. Was it guarded in Comeaux's? Mr. STUCKEY. No; it was not. Mr. JENNER. This was much more relaxed? Mr. STUCKEY. Considerably. Mr. JENNER. Following that tete-a-tete in Comeaux's Bar for about an hour, did you ever see Oswald after that? Mr. STUCKEY. That was the last time I ever saw him. Mr. JENNER. When was the next time you heard of Oswald? Mr. STUCKEY. On November 22, 1963. Mr. JENNER. What was that occasion? Mr. STUCKEY. The assassination of President Kennedy. Mr. JENNER. How was it raised, what brought it to your attention? Mr. STUCKEY. I was watching a TV news broadcast at the time, and they had a bulletin in which they said a suspect had been arrested in the assassination, and they mentioned Lee Harvey Oswald, and I fell to the ground practically; I was surprised. Mr. JENNER. Was there a video tape?