Warren Commission (11 of 26): Hearings Vol. XI (of 15)United States. Warren Commission
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Warren Commission (11 of 26): Hearings Vol. XI (of 15)
United States. Warren Commission
Kennedy, John F. (John Fitzgerald), 1917-1963 -- Assassination; Oswald, Lee Harvey
Mr. COLEMAN. Sir, I show you a document which has already been marked
as Commission Exhibit No. 969, and ask you whether these were the
instructions that were attached to S-1.
Mr. SEELEY. So far as I am able to determine, I don't have an
independent recollection, but looking at the formation of the file and
the fact that this was not sent, and I know that there was another one
that was sent, I believe it is the same document.
Mr. COLEMAN. And you were asked as to whether it should be classified
as confidential?
Mr. SEELEY. Yes, sir.
Mr. COLEMAN. What, if anything, did you do?
Mr. SEELEY. I don't know. I have no recollection of what action I took
on that particular aspect of it.
Mr. COLEMAN. You don't recall ever talking to Miss Waterman or anyone
else in the Department as to what form the proposed instruction should
take?
Mr. SEELEY. No. I don't know whether I even know Miss Waterman. I
know Mr. Kupiec, and I probably know Miss Waterman, but I don't have
recollection of what she looks like.
Mr. COLEMAN. Did you ever discuss with Mr. Kupiec as to what form the
instruction should take?
Mr. SEELEY. No, sir. This instruction was drafted by Miss Waterman,
and it was sent up for clearance to PTL, Mr. Johnson. I presume that
when it went to either Mr. Cacciatore or Mr. Kupiec, I put my name on
for the clearance procedure, in particular with regard to whether the
thing should have been classified, have a higher classification than it
did.
Mr. COLEMAN. You don't have any independent recollection of discussing
Oswald?
Mr. SEELEY. No, sir.
Mr. COLEMAN. Or whether the instruction should have been in a different
form?
Mr. SEELEY. No, sir; I do not.
Mr. COLEMAN. Could you tell me the next occasion where you had anything
to do with Oswald, or the file?
Mr. SEELEY. The next occasion, I think, relates to document X-43.
Mr. COLEMAN. I would like to mark as S-2 a memorandum from Robert D.
Johnson to Mr. John T. White, under date of March 31, 1961, which in
the State Department files has been marked as X-43.
(The document referred to was marked Seeley Exhibit No. 2 for
identification.)
Mr. COLEMAN. Is that the document referred to?
Mr. SEELEY. Yes, sir; it is.
Mr. COLEMAN. Now, sir, did you draft S-2?
Mr. SEELEY. Yes, sir; I did.
Mr. COLEMAN. Can you tell me the circumstances surrounding your
drafting S-2?
Mr. SEELEY. This particular item I do have a recollection of because
there was a discussion between Mr. Johnson and myself concerning the
propriety of sending the passport through the mail as had been proposed.
Mr. COLEMAN. What was that discussion?
Mr. SEELEY. We were opposed to this action on several grounds.
Mr. COLEMAN. What were they?
Mr. SEELEY. One was the fact that I think we already had information
that Mrs. Oswald, the mother, had not been able to get in touch with
her son.
Mr. COLEMAN. You are talking about Oswald's mother?
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