Lieutenant REVILL. Yes, for the past 7 weeks I have been assigned to the district attorney's office, the prosecution of Ruby, running down leads and interviewing witnesses and this preacher was one of the people that we located, and he related this story to me, that he rode up on the elevator with Jack Ruby on the morning of November 24. Mr. Wade did not use this man. He didn't need the testimony, because he had placed Ruby there the morning of the shooting. Mr. HUBERT. In other words, Rushing says that he rode up with Ruby on the morning of the 24th, prior to the shooting? Lieutenant REVILL. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. What was his name? Lieutenant REVILL. Ray Rushing. Mr. HUBERT. You don't know how we could reach him? Lieutenant REVILL. No; he lives in Richardson, Tex.--correction, please--Plano, Tex. Mr. HUBERT. How do you spell that? Lieutenant REVILL. P-l-a-n-o, north of Richardson, and at this time he does not have a phone. Mr. HUBERT. Did you make a report on the interview with him? Lieutenant REVILL. No, sir; I did not. This was an interview conducted by the--at the district attorney's office in the presence of Assistant District Attorney Alexander. Mr. HUBERT. Did Rushing say what time that was? Lieutenant REVILL. 9:30. He was sure of the time, because he had let his wife and family out at the First Baptist Church, and traveled directly to the city hall. Mr. HUBERT. Was he sure it was Sunday the 24th? Lieutenant REVILL. Yes, sir; he had gone there to speak to Oswald. Mr. HUBERT. How did he recognize Ruby? Did he say? Lieutenant REVILL. He said he recognized him from the newspaper article that appeared that day, and later days. Mr. HUBERT. Did he say whether he had any conversation with him? Lieutenant REVILL. He talked about the weather. I asked him. Mr. HUBERT. Did he say whether he was--whether he saw Ruby there afterwards? Lieutenant REVILL. He said he turned to the right and--went up to the third floor and after arriving on the third floor, he turned to the right and went to the administrative office and talked to Chief Assistant Batchelor. Mr. HUBERT. But, anyhow, after you interviewed this man Rushing, you turned over the information concerning your interview to Assistant District Attorney Alexander? Lieutenant REVILL. What I did is, I interviewed Mr. Rushing one night and asked him if he could come to the district attorney's office and relate this to Mr. Wade. Possibility that the district attorney might use him as a witness, and Alexander was of the opinion that the man might be mistaken. That he saw this as a means of getting publicity. Of course, I disagree with that thinking. I think that the man is truthful in that he is reporting what he thinks he saw. Mr. HUBERT. When you interviewed him did he give you what you considered a fairly accurate description of Ruby? Lieutenant REVILL. Yes. Of course, so many photographs had appeared in the newspapers and it would be easy for someone to----