Mr. HUBERT. Well, I can understand then that when he saw the man running down the ramp he did not know who that was, but did he tell you later he identified that man as being Ruby by comparing him to the pictures? Lieutenant REVILL. No, sir; he did not. Mr. HUBERT. Now, when Holly was asked to pick out the reserve officer who had told him what you said he did in the hospital, was Captain Solomon present? Lieutenant REVILL. Yes; Solomon was present and had brought these photographs to special services bureau, and he was unable to identify any of these people. Mr. HUBERT. He didn't pick out any picture at all? Lieutenant REVILL. No, sir. Mr. HUBERT. You know, of your own knowledge, whether or not Solomon had another interview with this man? Lieutenant REVILL. No, sir; I do not. Mr. HUBERT. Have you ever heard that Holly actually did pick out a picture in an interview with Solomon and state that he thought that was the reserve officer who had spoken to him. Now, apparently that didn't happen when you were present? Lieutenant REVILL. No, sir; I don't recall this happening in my presence. I do recall, I believe, Holly thinking that a specific officer was the individual that--we interviewed this officer and he was not the one, and I couldn't tell you his name, because we talked to so many of them. Mr. HUBERT. Then Holly did say that he thought that this might be the individual, and he picked out then a particular picture? Lieutenant REVILL. As I recall, he picked out a picture, and as it turned out, the man that he picked out wasn't even present at the basement of the city hall. He had been fishing, was on a fishing trip, and I talked to this reserve officer, I couldn't tell you his name. There were two of them that came from Arlington directly to the hospital. Mr. HUBERT. But, in any case, it wasn't Newman? Lieutenant REVILL. No, sir; he was not. Mr. HUBERT. Newman is a reserve officer? Lieutenant REVILL. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. So, the picture Holly picked out as being possibly the man who told him about seeing someone coming through with a pass or something like that sort was not Newman? Lieutenant REVILL. Right. Mr. HUBERT. That reserve officer was interviewed? Lieutenant REVILL. Yes, sir; he was interviewed and the report is in here, if I could find it. Mr. HUBERT. And your recollection of the interview was that he wasn't even in the place at all? Lieutenant REVILL. He had been fishing. Mr. HUBERT. You have no recollection at all of Holly picking out Newman's picture? Lieutenant REVILL. No, sir; he did not pick out Newman's picture. Mr. HUBERT. That is to say, in your---- Lieutenant REVILL. In my presence. Mr. HUBERT. Nor, have you heard that he picked out Newman's picture when you were not there? Lieutenant REVILL. No, sir; I have not heard this. Mr. HUBERT. I think the report indicates that you interviewed Ruby? Lieutenant REVILL. Yes, sir; on two occasions. Mr. HUBERT. What was the first one?