He and I left the Trade Mart and drove to Parkland Hospital to see if we could render any assistance out there. When we got out there, we found Mr. Lawson of the Secret Service. He stated he would be ready in a few moments, to transfer the President's body to Love Field to be flown back to Washington. He had no escort. He asked if we would escort the hearse bearing the body to Love Field. We told him that we would. He, and I believe it was a member of the White House staff, rode in the car with us. We led the hearse to Love Field. Arrived at Love Field---- Mr. HUBERT. Do you know what time you left the hospital, approximately? Mr. STEVENSON. I would say around 1:40, that is as near as I could say offhand, Mr. Hubert. I would say 1:40 to 2 o'clock. Mr. HUBERT. So you provided the escort for the hearse leaving the hospital about 1:40? Mr. STEVENSON. About 1:40 or 1:50. It's got to be somewhere in there, because the body was not held at the hospital but a short while. Mr. HUBERT. Did you know Jack Ruby prior to the time that he shot Oswald? Mr. STEVENSON. No, sir. Mr. HUBERT. Of course, you have seen pictures of him since, I take it? Mr. STEVENSON. Oh, yes. Mr. HUBERT. While you were at the hospital, and I would like you to state if you can, the time you arrived there, did you see Jack Ruby at any place around the hospital? Mr. STEVENSON. No, I did not. In fact, I did not get out of the car. I sat in the car by the radio while Chief Batchelor walked into the hospital to see if we could be of any further assistance. Mr. HUBERT. That was about what time that you arrived there, Mr. Stevenson? Mr. STEVENSON. I would say we arrived at the hospital around 1:40. Mr. HUBERT. All right, then go on. Mr. STEVENSON. After we reached Love Field, the Secret Service men loaded the casket onto the President's plane. They told us that they had called Judge Sarah T. Hughes to administer the oath of office to President Johnson. She arrived in a short time. We remained at Love Field until she administered the oath and the plane was airborne. After the President's plane was airborne, we left and came back to the city hall. We arrived back at the city hall around 4 o'clock, I would say. Mr. HUBERT. When you say city hall, do you mean police department? Mr. STEVENSON. Police Courts Building, our headquarters. Mr. HUBERT. For the record, I wish you would describe the relationship between what is the police building and the municipal building of the city hall. Mr. STEVENSON. The Police and Courts Building is what was, until a few years ago, the city hall proper. A new building was constructed adjacent to this building and adjoining it just east of the Police and Courts Building.