Warren Commission (12 of 26): Hearings Vol. XII (of 15)United States. Warren Commission
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Warren Commission (12 of 26): Hearings Vol. XII (of 15)
United States. Warren Commission
Kennedy, John F. (John Fitzgerald), 1917-1963 -- Assassination; Oswald, Lee Harvey
Mr. HUBERT. Now, you have made a statement, I think, to the FBI, have
you not, sir?
Mr. STEVENSON. Yes; I was interviewed by the FBI.
Mr. HUBERT. I will hand you a document that I am going to mark now for
identification as follows: Dallas, Tex., March 23, 1964, an Exhibit
5051, Deposition of Chief M. W. Stevenson. I am signing my name, and I
would like you to read it, sir.
Mr. STEVENSON. (Reads.)
Mr. HUBERT. Now, Mr. Stevenson, you are signing it.
Do I take it by that, that that statement is correct, so far as you
know?
At least that there are no errors in it?
Mr. STEVENSON. As far as I can see, there are no errors. Only one thing
on this, unless I missed it right here, this does not say anything of
the change of plan.
Mr. HUBERT. No?
Mr. STEVENSON. It sure doesn't.
Mr. HUBERT. Well, it just speaks for itself. But apparently you called
to our attention an omission from that statement which has been covered
by a part of this deposition, is that correct?
Mr. STEVENSON. This was taken on the 25th. I guess that is right. Isn't
that the date here?
Mr. HUBERT. Yes; the 25th is correct.
Mr. STEVENSON. I don't understand why that part was omitted, but I was
interviewed, and there is nothing in here, as far as I am concerned,
that is wrong, to my knowledge, with the exception of that omission of
the change in method, of transfer.
Mr. HUBERT. There may be other things also in your deposition that do
not appear in that document which we have marked as Exhibit 5051.
Now I show you another document which I have marked "Dallas, Tex.,
March 23, 1964, Exhibit 5052, Deposition of M. W. Stevenson," and
I have signed it with my own name. It is a part of the Commission
Document 81-A, Page 95-A, and ask you, sir, if that is a correct
statement of your interview with Captain Sawyer?
Mr. STEVENSON. Yes, sir; it is. I might add on this one, this was to
find out about our security, the reason this one was put out, and that
is the reason they didn't go any further. You want me to sign this?
Mr. HUBERT. Yes. As I understand you, that is correct, so far as it
goes?
Mr. STEVENSON. That's right.
Mr. HUBERT. Would you care to state for the record, Chief Stevenson,
what, in your opinion, was the cause of the breakdown of security which
resulted in the death of Oswald?
Mr. STEVENSON. Mr. Hubert, I don't know whether I can tell you the
cause or not, but there is no doubt we had a breakdown. And if our
investigation is right, it was at the Main Street ramp into the
basement through which Ruby claimed that he walked down that ramp while
this officer had his back turned. And our investigation showed that he
did leave the Western Union Office some 4 or 4-1/2 minutes prior to the
shooting.
Our breakdown, although this is my opinion, it was unintentional on the
part of Officer Vaughn, in my opinion, he did come down that ramp.
Mr. HUBERT. Is there anything else you would like to say, sir,
concerning any part of this matter whatsoever?
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