Captain TALBERT. Chief Fisher; N. T. Fisher. Mr. HUBERT. And he is head of the patrol division in general? Captain TALBERT. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. Three captains under him? Captain TALBERT. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. Who are the other captains? Captain TALBERT. J. M. Souter relieves me, and Capt. William Frazier, who relieves Souter. Mr. HUBERT. Were you in that same position with the same duties and responsibilities on the 24th of November 1963? Captain TALBERT. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. Were you on duty on the 23d of November 1963? Captain TALBERT. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. What hours did you serve then? Captain TALBERT. Seven to three. Mr. HUBERT. 7 a.m. to 3 p.m.? Captain TALBERT. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. Did you go off duty at 3 p.m. on the 23d? Captain TALBERT. Close to that, I mean close to that time; yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. At the time you went off duty about 3 p.m. on the 23d of November, had you been informed of any plans for a transfer of Oswald to the county jail? Captain TALBERT. Not by police supervisors. I had heard the information the chief had given the news media who had insisted on setting up their equipment in our jail office, or adjacent to the jail office, and he insisted that they not set it up there, and that they would be in the general public way, and only that they could report after 10 o'clock on the next day. Mr. HUBERT. Now, you didn't hear that from the chief himself? Captain TALBERT. Not from the chief. Only--that is hearsay. Mr. HUBERT. You obtained from the radio or television or newspapers? Captain TALBERT. Possibly radio and newspapers, yes, sir. You might know we were attentive to all news media at the time. Mr. HUBERT. Now, what time, then, did you go on duty on the 24th? Captain TALBERT. The morning of the 24th I reported when--I gave my time of duty as 7 to 3. Actually, we report about an hour early so that we can prepare the platoon, or any revision in the platoon that we have to make. So, at approximately 6 o'clock, I reported to our office and relieved Captain Frazier. Mr. HUBERT. Now, at the time that you relieved Captain Frazier, did he convey any information to you? Captain TALBERT. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. Tell us what he said? Captain TALBERT. Said he had a communication with Sheriff Decker and Mr. Newsom, with the FBI, and both were anxious to transfer Oswald at the time. Transfer him immediately to the county jail, and that he had been unable to contact the chief due to a phone malfunction. That he couldn't call him. Mr. HUBERT. Did he tell you what time he had received that information? Captain TALBERT. He did; but I don't recall what time, sir. Mr. HUBERT. Did he tell you of any security plans that had been made to transfer Oswald? Captain TALBERT. No, sir. Mr. HUBERT. Did he tell you of any security plans that should be made, or had been ordered? Captain TALBERT. No, sir. Mr. HUBERT. Did he then go off duty? I am talking about Captain Frazier now.