Mr. ARNETT. No; I believe Captain Martin--now, I could be wrong on the name, but he is over the juvenile department, or was. You know, the captain that they--that had the kid that we had carried up there. So I came back downstairs then and I saw two or three highway patrol, driver's license men---- Mr. GRIFFIN. Let me interrupt here just a second, give you a few names of people who were in that department, juvenile department, and see if you recognize any of those as having been present. Was Detective Lowery there? Mr. ARNETT. I don't remember him being. Now, he may have been. Mr. GRIFFIN. Officer Goolsby there? Mr. ARNETT. I don't recall him. Mr. GRIFFIN. Was Detective Miller there? Mr. ARNETT. Well, I couldn't say, and I wouldn't say without telling you the truth. Mr. GRIFFIN. Yes; do you know L. D. Miller, Louis D. Miller? Mr. ARNETT. I don't know whether I do or not. I do know Lowery, and I do know the officer---- Mr. GRIFFIN. Lowery and Goolsby. How about the Officer Harrison? Mr. ARNETT. Blackie Harrison? Mr. GRIFFIN. Blackie Harrison? Mr. ARNETT. Yes, sir. Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you know him? Mr. ARNETT. Yes, sir. Mr. GRIFFIN. Was he there at the time? Mr. ARNETT. I don't recall him being there at the time. Mr. GRIFFIN. Where did you go after you left the boy in the juvenile bureau? Mr. ARNETT. That was when I carried the second boy up to see about his buddy? Mr. GRIFFIN. Yes. Mr. ARNETT. I went downstairs and on the street. As I say, I saw three or four Texas Highway Department driver's license men, and I said, "The President has been shot." And they said, "Oh, Arnett, what size camera was he shooting?" They thought, you know, I was joking. So I went on and got in my car. By that time squads were going everywhere. Mr. GRIFFIN. Was this your private car? Mr. ARNETT. Yes; went home to change clothes out of my uniform into civilian clothes, to go to my aunt's funeral. Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, which way did you drive? Mr. ARNETT. I believe I went down Young Street. I did. I went down Young Street to avoid all this traffic of squads and everything going---- Mr. GRIFFIN. Young Street in what direction? Mr. ARNETT. West. Mr. GRIFFIN. Headed west? Mr. ARNETT. Yes, sir. Over the Houston Street viaduct to Oak Cliff. Mr. GRIFFIN. I see. Does Young intersect Jackson any place? Mr. ARNETT. Jackson runs along beside it. Mr. GRIFFIN. Runs parallel to it. Did you go by the Greyhound Bus station? Mr. ARNETT. Did I go by it? Mr. GRIFFIN. Yes. Mr. ARNETT. I would have been one block south of it. Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, what time would you estimate that it was that you went over the Houston Street viaduct? Mr. ARNETT. I would say it was shortly before 1 o'clock, because I had to rush to get out of these clothes into other clothes to get to Grapevine, which is only 20 miles, something like that, to be there at 2 o'clock. Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, when you got across the Houston Street viaduct, is there a point where you come to Zangs Boulevard?