Mr. ARNETT. I would say 6 o'clock. Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, at the time that you arrived at the elevator, had there been a system set up for admitting people to the third floor--let's put it this way, excluding people from the third floor? Mr. ARNETT. That's what I started doing. Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, was there anybody else doing that at the elevator before you arrived, before you got there? Mr. ARNETT. I couldn't say whether there was anybody assigned there before I got there or not, but there was a Sergeant Ellis, I believe, and Sergeant Dugger, were there with me when I was working there. Mr. GRIFFIN. All right. Did you replace anybody? Mr. ARNETT. Now, I am not going to say that I did or I didn't, because I couldn't tell you and be telling you the truth. Mr. GRIFFIN. Who did you get your instructions from? Mr. ARNETT. I believe it was Sergeant Ellis, I believe it was, now. Mr. GRIFFIN. Is he a regular sergeant? Mr. ARNETT. Yes, sir. Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, did you ride on the elevator? Mr. ARNETT. No, sir. I was in front of it, and as people got off they had to show their identification. Mr. GRIFFIN. I see. Did you recognize Jack Ruby? Mr. ARNETT. Did I recognize him? Mr. GRIFFIN. Yes; I mean, did you know Jack Ruby up to this point? Mr. ARNETT. No, sir. Mr. GRIFFIN. What kind of identification did you ask for when people got off of the elevator? Mr. ARNETT. Well, if they was a press reporter, they had a press card, showing who they were, and they were from everywhere, coming in there. You would be surprised how far they had traveled that day. You know, I was--I didn't think about people being there that day, you know, from so far up. One man told me he was asleep in Chicago. They woke him up and told him the President had been killed, and he was there that night, I would say by 8 o'clock. There was one man in particular that I remember, that came up. He said he was a postal inspector. Mr. GRIFFIN. Postal inspector? Mr. ARNETT. He showed me his identification, said he would like to talk to Captain Fritz, that he had a key to the post office box down there that this fellow had, and he wanted to see if that key did fit it, or he had a key and he wanted to see if it would--was to that box. Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, how many of you were standing there at the third floor elevator, checking identification of people who got off the elevator? Mr. ARNETT. I would say four. Two elevators. Mr. GRIFFIN. What did you do about people who came up, who said they came up to see somebody who was being questioned, or in connection with some other business other than being a photographer or---- Mr. ARNETT. If they didn't have an identification of pressmen or ranger or lawmen of some kind, they were turned back. There were two Spanish men came up there who wanted to talk to some officer about a ticket, and we notified whatever officer they wanted to talk to about it, and told him to go downstairs and see them.