Mr. BEATY. Everyone decided we wanted to get some coffee, and as we got off the elevator in the basement, I noticed all the newspaper people standing out there and a couple of reserve officers and a policeman, I think, whose name was Nelson. I didn't know him at the time. He was guarding the entrance. And just curiosity made me, instead of going to get coffee, stay around to see what was going on. Mr. GRIFFIN. Were the people that you were going to go to coffee with in the narcotics bureau? Mr. BEATY. No; vice and narcotics, and some administrative section. Mr. GRIFFIN. Any people from the third floor? Mr. BEATY. No. Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you know where they went after coffee? Mr. BEATY. No. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did they go out of the building? Mr. BEATY. Yes; out of the building. Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, tell me what happened when you saw this fellow Nielson. Mr. BEATY. Right away, nothing. I mean I just happened to glance over here and here's two officers, and nothing happened. I just kind of lingered behind and I didn't care for coffee anyway, and I told them I would wait for them, and I kind of figured they would maybe move Oswald, and I just wanted to see him and that is what it amounted to. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you--you expected that Oswald would be moved fairly soon? Mr. BEATY. Yes. Mr. GRIFFIN. Had you received some word before that? Mr. BEATY. Everybody in the world, at 10 o'clock. They said in the newspaper and radio. Mr. GRIFFIN. By this time when the boys in your group went out for coffee, had there been any instructions to standby? Mr. BEATY. None. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you later receive some instructions to standby to help in the Oswald move? Mr. BEATY. As Capt. O. A. Jones got off the elevator, and as he walked by, he said, "Come here, I want to talk to you." Mr. GRIFFIN. Did this take place in the basement? Mr. BEATY. Right by the elevator door to the basement. He said there will be some officers come down from the third floor, and told me to wait for them right here, and he indicated close by the entrance to the jail office. Mr. GRIFFIN. Now Detective Beaty, what is your best estimate of how long this encounter with Jones was before Oswald actually came downstairs? Mr. BEATY. What time did he get shot? It was about probably 30 minutes before he actually came down and Ruby shot him. Mr. GRIFFIN. That is the important thing. I would rather have you fix it in terms of that time rather than some specific time. Mr. BEATY. Around 30 minutes or something like this. Mr. GRIFFIN. Because I noticed in the interview which you gave to the FBI, you indicated that this was about 10 o'clock that you saw Jones. Did you have any idea at the time when you gave this interview to Agents Dallman and Quigley--that was on December 3--did you have anything specific in mind when you told them that it was 10 o'clock.