Mr. GRIFFIN. Well, when you took up your position at the base of the ramp, had the armored car arrived? Mr. CROY. Yes. Mr. GRIFFIN. The armored car was already there? You weren't there at any time when the armored car was not there? Mr. CROY. No. Mr. GRIFFIN. All right. Can you give us any statement of how long you were there? Were you there for 2 minutes prior to the time Oswald came down? Mr. CROY. I was longer than that. Mr. GRIFFIN. Were you there 15 minutes? Mr. CROY. I couldn't say. I don't remember whether I was. Mr. GRIFFIN. You think you were there as long as 5 minutes? Mr. CROY. Yes. Mr. GRIFFIN. How about as long as 10 minutes? Mr. CROY. I couldn't say that. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you remain in one general area when you stationed yourself at the bottom of the Main Street ramp? Mr. CROY. Yes. Mr. GRIFFIN. How did you come to be stationed at that position? Mr. CROY. There was another officer, a regular officer, I believe, commented that they needed at least three more officers at that particular position. Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you recall who that regular officer was? Mr. CROY. No; I don't. I don't even know who he was. I just remember there was a regular officer, supervisory officer in uniform stated they needed at least three more. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did he state this to you personally, or were you in a group at that time? Mr. CROY. I was just standing out there on this ramp leading into the basement where the two ramps lead down into the basement, and he stepped out there, and as well as I remember, just made a quick check and pointed out that he needed at least three men at that location. Mr. GRIFFIN. Well, from the time that you finished doing your clerical work when you first came in, until you all were ultimately stationed at the base of the Main Street ramp, did you have any particular responsibilities? Mr. CROY. Yes. There were several reserve officers that were coming right directly into the basement, and the first reported to the assembly room to get their assignments or be told what to do. I would take these men and take them in there and get them mustered in on the roster so we would know they were there and have a record. I would either tell them where to report, or take them to a certain station and station them there. Mr. GRIFFIN. All right, do you recall if you were in the basement when Captain Jones was there? Mr. CROY. No; I don't. Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you recall if you were in the basement when a group of regular police officers, detectives and so forth came into the basement from the public elevators that go up into the police building, and walked through the swinging door and were given assignments by a regular officer of some sort? Were you there at that time? Mr. CROY. I don't guess I was; I don't recall it at all. Mr. GRIFFIN. All right. Now, while you were stationed at the base of the Main Street ramp, do you recall if you saw any cars go in and out of the basement? Mr. CROY. There was one.