Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, to what extent, I want to know, do you think that this concern of your affects your story, honestly? I could tell this story and honestly believe everything I am telling, but yet we all know unconsciously our emotions are affected. How much are you being affected by that concern of Harrison? Mr. CUTCHSHAW. None of my story or anything I have told you has been affected in any way for any concern for any one person in the department. I came down here to tell you this, and everything is just the way I saw it. And as far as concern for any one individual, I don't have any. Now, Blackie is a friend of mine, and I have known him for a long time. I have no concern for him, because I don't think he did anything wrong. And I think if he had seen the man, he would have put him out. Mr. GRIFFIN. Even if he had seen and hadn't put him out? Mr. CUTCHSHAW. Even if he had seen and hadn't put him out, then he did the wrong thing. Mr. GRIFFIN. And you think he would have been disciplined for that, too, don't you? Mr. CUTCHSHAW. I believe he would be disciplined for that, too, and he would be, if he had seen the man and hadn't put him out. Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you think that if Blackie knew that he wouldn't be disciplined for this, and if somebody were to tell him now that he wouldn't be disciplined and it wouldn't be made known to anybody in the public or even anybody in the police department, and it actually turned out Blackie did see this guy, do you think Blackie would tell us about that? Mr. CUTCHSHAW. I believe he would. Blackie is an honest man. In fact, the way it is right now, if he had saw the man, I believe he would tell you he had. Mr. GRIFFIN. You heard the story that Blackie had taken some sort of medicine before he took that lie detector test? Mr. CUTCHSHAW. No; I haven't. Mr. GRIFFIN. You haven't heard that story? Mr. CUTCHSHAW. No. Mr. GRIFFIN. You are concerned, I take it, about the department, though you said you are not concerned about any particular man in the department, but you are concerned about the department? Mr. CUTCHSHAW. As far as doing anything wrong? Mr. GRIFFIN. Yes. Mr. CUTCHSHAW. No, sir. Mr. GRIFFIN. Well, you act---- Mr. CUTCHSHAW. The way you are talking is that I am concerned that I think we have done something wrong. I don't think there is one wrongdoing, as far as the officers are concerned and what happened down there. I didn't think like that. Departmental wise or individualwise, there are things pro and con of what should have happened and what shouldn't have happened. One way of looking, there shouldn't have been any news media, and maybe they shouldn't have been spread out that way, but we would have caught the dickens that way. And, as I heard, Chief Curry had the okay from a little higher up to go ahead and have the news media, and it didn't turn out too good. But as far as wrongdoings, there is not one wrong thing that happened as far as our department is concerned.