Warren Commission (13 of 26): Hearings Vol. XIII (of 15)United States. Warren Commission
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Warren Commission (13 of 26): Hearings Vol. XIII (of 15)
United States. Warren Commission
Kennedy, John F. (John Fitzgerald), 1917-1963 -- Assassination; Oswald, Lee Harvey
You earlier made the query about when I had left him. It states in
here--on page 2, the last sentence of the last paragraph, “He stated
2 minutes after entering the emergency room, also known as the trauma
room, Oswald was removed to the operating room.” He was removed to the
operating room via an elevator, and at that point that was the point I
last saw him.
Mr. HUBERT. Was he alive at that point?
Dr. BIEBERDORF. He was still alive at that time. I am just going by
hearsay, now. He was said to have died--well, he was still moving
around at that time, so, he was definitely alive.
Mr. HUBERT. You were with him in the ambulance all the way through?
Dr. BIEBERDORF. Yes, sir.
Mr. HUBERT. And when he got to the ambulance you saw signs of life?
Dr. BIEBERDORF. Although, I did not until we got about halfway to
Parkland.
Mr. HUBERT. You thought he was dead?
Dr. BIEBERDORF. He--I surmised he was dead until he started moving a
little bit.
Mr. HUBERT. Did he make any statement at all?
Dr. BIEBERDORF. He did not utter any sound at all, that I heard.
Mr. HUBERT. Any other corrections?
Dr. BIEBERDORF. Let’s see. On page 3, the second paragraph, “Bieberdorf
states that he was not acquainted with Jack Ruby, but that he did
interview Ruby in the police jail on Sunday, November 24, at about 4 or
5 p.m.”
This time--I looked it up at a later date, and it was at exactly 2:05
p.m., rather than my estimation at that time of 4 or 5 p.m.
Mr. HUBERT. All right, have you any other on that document 5123?
Dr. BIEBERDORF. Well, there are a few more.
Mr. HUBERT. Otherwise, it stated correctly the nature of the physical
examination that you gave to Ruby and the findings?
Dr. BIEBERDORF. The next sentence that follows that is correct, but
then there is another. That same paragraph, the last sentence in this
paragraph reads, “Bieberdorf states that he gave Ruby a physical
examination at this time in order to insure Ruby had not concealed any
weapon on his person.”
This is not correct here. Later on in the afternoon of November 24, I
was asked by the police or Lieutenant--I believe in charge of the jail
at that time, to go upstairs and at the request of detectives and one
of the FBI agents, I performed a rectal examination on him to make sure
he had not smuggled--or to see if he had brought anything in on his
person.
This was at 6 p.m., so, I did see Ruby on two occasions. One at 2:05
and one at 6. I think that report tends to indicate it was only one.
Mr. HUBERT. It really was two, and you have explained it.
Dr. BIEBERDORF. Yes.
Mr. HUBERT. All right.
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