Warren Commission (13 of 26): Hearings Vol. XIII (of 15)United States. Warren Commission
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Warren Commission (13 of 26): Hearings Vol. XIII (of 15)
United States. Warren Commission
Kennedy, John F. (John Fitzgerald), 1917-1963 -- Assassination; Oswald, Lee Harvey
Mr. HUBERT. Well, yes; I should like you to say if there is anything in
there that--or if you heard something that Ruby said which is not in
your report denominated as Exhibit 5123, I wish you would add that.
Dr. BIEBERDORF. Okay; well, as I stated earlier, I saw him on the
two occasions. Once at approximately 2:05, and the second time at
approximately 6 p.m., both on November 24.
At the 2:05 time that I saw him, he, as I stated in this
document--Well, let me just go through what, as best I can recall, what
was said. I identified myself to him. I don’t recall that he said who
he was or that either the police officer with him or the FBI agent with
him at the time identified him to me. I told him that I had been asked
to see if he had any complaints or injuries as a result of the earlier
scuffle he had in the city hall.
He assured me that he was not injured in any way. He took off his coat,
which he had on at the time, and showed me a few bruises on the medial
aspect of his right arm, and I also noted a few bruises on his right
wrist which appeared to be fresh, but, he assured me these weren’t
bothering him, and he had no other injuries. He, at that time--oh, I
don’t recall the exact words he used, but he expressed an admiration
for the police officers. And in saying that he had no injuries he
stated that the police had just done what they had to do, that they
hadn’t injured him any more than necessary, than he would expect in
such a scuffle, and again spoke of how the police were doing their job
and how they were doing their job well.
At 6 o’clock. Well, excuse me. Delete that 6 o’clock.
He, at that time, did not seem to act--I did not make any observation
of his behavior at that time.
Just saw him for a matter of 2 or 3 minutes during that time. I did not
attempt to do any mental status observation or examination on him, and
really couldn’t say anything, hadn’t formed any opinion as to the state
of mind that he was in at that time.
Mr. HUBERT. Is that last statement of yours true as to both interviews,
or only the 6 o’clock one?
Dr. BIEBERDORF. Both interviews. I saw him 2 or 3 minutes at 2 o’clock,
or 2:05, and another 2 or 3 minutes at 6 o’clock. Now, the conversation
that I mentioned occurred at 2:05.
Mr. HUBERT. No conversation in the evening, in the later call, later
visit?
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