Mr. HUBERT. Can you tell me whether you can say definitely one way or the other that among those people standing on tables was Jack Ruby? Mr. HANKAL. No; I can’t tell you that I saw him to recognize him. I’m sure I saw him if he was up there, but wherever he was I must have seen him. Mr. HUBERT. But your point, as I understand it, is that you did see some people standing? Mr. HANKAL. Right. Mr. HUBERT. On tables? Mr. HANKAL. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. Whether any of those people was Jack Ruby you cannot say one way or the other? Mr. HANKAL. That’s right, I didn’t know the man. Mr. HUBERT. And after you got to know him, your recollection doesn’t place him at all? Mr. HANKAL. It does not. Mr. HUBERT. Now, have you been interviewed by any other member of the President’s Commission prior to this? Mr. HANKAL. No; I have not. Mr. HUBERT. I believe that’s all. Thank you very much. Mr. HANKAL. Thank you. TESTIMONY OF ROBERT S. HUFFAKER, JR. The testimony of Robert S. Huffaker, Jr., was taken at 4:25 p.m., on April 16, 1964, in the office of the U.S. attorney, 301 Post Office Building, Bryan and Ervay Streets, Dallas, Tex., by Mr. Leon D. Hubert, Jr., assistant counsel of the President’s Commission. Mr. HUBERT. Mr. Huffaker, my name is Leon Hubert. I’m a member of the advisory staff of the general counsel of the President’s Commission. Under the provisions of Executive Order 11130, dated November 29, 1963, and the Joint Resolution of Congress No. 137 and rules of procedure adopted by the Commission in conformance with that Executive order and joint resolution, I have been authorized to take a sworn statement from you. I state to you now that the general nature of the Commission’s inquiry is to ascertain, evaluate and report upon facts relating to the assassination of President Kennedy and the subsequent violent death of Lee Harvey Oswald. In particular as to you, Mr. Huffaker, the nature of the inquiry today is to determine what facts you know about the death of Oswald and any other pertinent facts you may know about the general inquiry, and about the activities of one Jack Ruby. Mr. Huffaker, I think you have appeared here today as a result of a written request addressed to you by Mr. J. Lee Rankin, general counsel of the President’s Commission; is that a fact? Mr. HUFFAKER. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. Did you receive that written notice more than 3 days from today? Mr. HUFFAKER. Yes; I did. Mr. HUBERT. Now, will you rise and be sworn? Do you solemnly swear the testimony you are about to give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God? Mr. HUFFAKER. I do. Mr. HUBERT. Will you state your name, please? Mr. HUFFAKER. Robert S. Huffaker, Jr. Mr. HUBERT. How old are you, sir? Mr. HUFFAKER. I am 27. Mr. HUBERT. What is your residence? Mr. HUFFAKER. My residence is 4700 Eastside Avenue. Mr. HUBERT. Dallas? Mr. HUFFAKER. Apartment 121, Dallas, and it has changed since these statements were made.