Mr. HUBERT. Therefore, am I correct in saying there was approximately 13 feet of rail through which Ruby could have come prior to the time you saw him at position number “10”? Mr. TURNER. You are correct. Mr. HUBERT. Now, going back to that position number “10” on the line, “C,” “D”. You have placed position number “10” almost in the middle of the ramp. Was he closer to one side or to the other? Mr. TURNER. He seemed to be closer and--this is hard to say, because it was almost a casual glance, that he was closer to the rail side than he was to the other side. Mr. HUBERT. You did not see him come over the rail? Mr. TURNER. No, sir; I did not. I did not come in contact with the man until he was in the position--he was nearly in the center of it when I came in contact, and the man--the hat was the most obvious facial--I mean just glancing at a man you take something that you can pick a man out by and remember his name by it. That is the way I remember people is something they ordinarily wear, and he had the hat on, but I thought he was a--much larger than--by just glancing at him. Mr. HUBERT. We’ll come back to the other point. Is there any doubt in your mind that the man that you saw, however you would identify him at point number “10,” was the man that you later saw step forward and shoot Oswald? Mr. TURNER. No, sir; and without a doubt in my mind, sir. Mr. HUBERT. Off the record. (Discussion off the record.) Mr. HUBERT. Have you anything else you would like to say? Mr. TURNER. No, I want to say that I hope I have been some help to you. Mr. HUBERT. Now, let me ask you this: Other than myself, have you been interviewed by any other member of the Commission staff? Mr. TURNER. Not on the Commission staff, sir. Mr. HUBERT. Now, there was a little preliminary interview between you and me this morning before your deposition went onto the record. Mr. TURNER. That’s right, sir. Mr. HUBERT. Can you perceive any inconsistencies between our colloquy in the interview prior to the beginning of the actual taking of this deposition and the matters covered in the deposition? Mr. TURNER. No, sir; none at all. Mr. HUBERT. Now, did you tell me anything during the interview which we have not covered in the deposition? Mr. TURNER. You mean before? Mr. HUBERT. Yes. Mr. TURNER. No, we discussed everything. Mr. HUBERT. We got it all in the deposition? Mr. TURNER. That’s right. Mr. HUBERT. I certainly thank you very much, sir. TESTIMONY OF HAROLD R. FUQUA The testimony of Harold R. Fuqua was taken at 3:55 p.m., on April 1, 1964, in the office of the U.S. attorney, 301 Post Office Building, Bryan and Ervay Streets, Dallas, Tex., by Mr. Leon D. Hubert, Jr., assistant counsel of the President’s Commission.