It is the only two ways they could have gotten there, and at that time when they were immediately clearing out of this area, it is very possible the policemen, knowing that they were building maintenance employees, and been seeing them for years, especially John the head porter, why, and Harold Fuqua in charge of parking of cars in this basement area, might have said it was all right for them to take these stairs down to the locker room as they were going to have to leave this area anyway. They could either have gone to the--they could either have gone from the municipal building down the stairs or permitted them to go back into the police and courts building. Mr. HUBERT. Well, now, they have gotten out of the municipal building by going through the service elevator, through the alleyway door and out through the alley to Main Street, couldn’t they? Mr. PIERCE. They could have, but they couldn’t have gotten--they would have to come back into this basement area down this ramp in order to get into where the stairway is to go down to the police locker room. Mr. HUBERT. Well, they could have gone down the police department building entrance on Harwood, down into this basement. Mr. PIERCE. They would have had to---- Mr. HUBERT. Walked around the block, so to speak? Mr. PIERCE. And come down the elevator and walked from there down to the locker room where they did stay. Mr. HUBERT. All right. Okay. Thank you very much, sir. I appreciate it. I think that’s it. Do we have everything that you know? Mr. PIERCE. If it be of help. I am privileged to be of help. If I have, I’m glad. Mr. HUBERT. Good---- Mr. PIERCE. In fact, I trust that I have. At least, we ascertained--like I told her. I might have written it myself, but, actually, it was written from statements that I made, so that is---- Mr. HUBERT. You are talking about Exhibit 5132? Mr. PIERCE. The statement that I read there; yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. Thank you very much, sir. Mr. PIERCE. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. All right, you can go out this way. TESTIMONY OF ALFREADIA RIGGS The testimony of Alfreadia Riggs was taken at 10:30 a.m., on April 1, 1964, in the office of the U.S. attorney, 301 Post Office Building, Bryan and Ervay Streets, Dallas, Tex., by Mr. Leon D. Hubert, Jr., assistant counsel of the President’s Commission.