Mr. HUBERT. I am not talking about the police building, I am talking about the municipal building? Mr. RIGGS. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. Did you do any work in the municipal building? Mr. RIGGS. No, sir. Mr. HUBERT. How did you get from the municipal building to--no, from the police building where you were working to the municipal building? Mr. RIGGS. Well, I came down through the basement. It wasn’t--trying to think all who were down in the basement. We was all standing around. It was Harold, Gill, Kelly, and if I’m not mistaken, I think Pierce all standing around in the basement, and the police was searching the rafters and checking the cars for guns and things, and finally whenever sergeant--actually I don’t know exactly his name--gave orders for them to clear out everybody in the basement down there, so, we got on the elevator and went to the first floor in order to look out the door. We--to see when they got him out to the ramp. Mr. HUBERT. Yes. Mr. RIGGS. I think Servance had opened up the front door in the municipal building, and we was standing between--which it has two doors, one stays locked all the time, and one stays open because they have a meter where people put their water deposits in a little box. He had opened the doors on the inside, and we was standing between the two doors. Mr. HUBERT. Which doors are you talking about? Mr. RIGGS. On Commerce Street side. Mr. HUBERT. Who opened that door? Mr. RIGGS. Servance. Mr. HUBERT. Servance. Now, what other entrances are there to the first floor of the municipal building? Mr. RIGGS. How many entrances? Mr. HUBERT. Yes; how can you get into it? Mr. RIGGS. Well, we have one that leaves from the first floor to the Police and Courts Building, which it stays shut over the weekend, or on the weekend. Mr. HUBERT. Sort of a metal gate? Mr. RIGGS. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. Swinging gate like an accordion. It swings out and blocks the corridor that runs between the two buildings? Mr. RIGGS. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. Was that open or closed? Mr. RIGGS. Closed. Mr. HUBERT. You say that---- Mr. RIGGS. Kept closed. Mr. HUBERT. Who keeps it closed? Mr. RIGGS. Well, usually the porter that works at night closes it up. Mr. HUBERT. Did you check it to see that it was closed? Mr. RIGGS. No, sir; I looked and it seemed to be closed actually. Mr. HUBERT. That is to say that this gate, like a metal gate that runs from the floor to the ceiling, was pulled to, but you don’t know if it was locked? Mr. RIGGS. No. Mr. HUBERT. Is it possible to lock that door? Mr. RIGGS. It is possible. Mr. HUBERT. Is it possible to lock that corridor? Mr. RIGGS. Yes, sir; yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. So you have that door, you have an entrance from Commerce Street, and there is an entrance on Main Street? Mr. RIGGS. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. What was the condition of that door on Sunday? Mr. RIGGS. Well, it was--well, I presume it was closed, too. Mr. HUBERT. Is it usually?