Mr. RIGGS. Towards Main Street, yes, sir; and got to Main Street, turned left going towards Harwood, and then as we passed--which is a driveway that leads down to the ramp on the Main Street side, well, we sort of glanced down through that-a-way to see, you understand. We saw that armored car which we couldn’t see from up there on the top. Then we left, and went to Harwood, made a left, which was going towards Commerce off of Main Street, which is on Harwood, and as you get to the--between the blocks of the building, half way, they have a--steps that leads down into the basement. Mr. HUBERT. On the Harwood Street side of the steps that lead down into the basement? Did you go down those steps? Mr. RIGGS. Actually, Harold asked me to go down and check and see if it would be all right for us to go down because we were under the impression that they had the police--had a police officer on the door. After I went down and checked and there wasn’t anyone and then I turned and told him to come down and he and I came on down too, and well, the photographers and all was in the basement. All--we passed on by, and went down to the police basement, which is--opposite from the prop room. You have to go down the hall and down the steps. Mr. HUBERT. You mean you went down into the locker room? That is where all the policemen have their lockers and there’s a recreation room and television and---- Mr. RIGGS. Yes, sir; and television and--and there was a jail attendant down there, actually he didn’t work in the jail office, he is not a policeman, but he works in the jail office. Mr. HUBERT. What is his name? Do you know? Mr. RIGGS. No, sir; I really don’t. He told us that he didn’t think they were going to show it on television. He imagined they were going to run a tape and show it later on. Said, “Well, we should have stayed up there. Maybe we could have seen him when they brought him out--” While we were down there I bought a little can of soup, or chili or something, and I was eating as we came back up to the--and we stood on the opposite wall from the corridor that leads out to the basement from the hallway that goes out to the basement, and where it has a door--I’m sorry, I couldn’t explain, but actually it leads to the basement, goes where they park the cars. We was standing up--opposite--in other words, two corridors, you understand, separate that, and well, we was standing up there maybe about 5 minutes, one of the newspapermen said, “Here he come, here he come,” and well, we got on the other side of the wall and was trying to look, well, so much rushing and all that actually we didn’t see anything, and then did hear the shot, didn’t actually sound like a shot, sort of muffled out. Mr. HUBERT. Were you in the basement at that time? Mr. RIGGS. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. On the Commerce Street side, or the Main Street side?