Mr. SERVANCE. Well, first place, the door wasn’t opened all the time, just for a few moments, and the next place there was a policeman out on the outside didn’t allow us to come--and give us orders to go back in and shut it. Mr. HUBERT. I see, and anyhow, if anyone had come in probably you would have seen them, isn’t that correct? Mr. SERVANCE. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. Do you know Mr. Jack Ruby? Mr. SERVANCE. Never seen him before. Mr. HUBERT. He didn’t pass through that door? Mr. SERVANCE. No, sir; he didn’t. Mr. HUBERT. And you definitely locked it? Mr. SERVANCE. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. Now, what other entrances or exits are there to the first floor of the municipal building? Mr. SERVANCE. Well, now, you would have--the first floor, we have a gate leading from the city hall now, the old building from the municipal---- Mr. HUBERT. The police building? Mr. SERVANCE. Yes, sir; police building, I’ll put it that way, it was locked. Mr. HUBERT. In other words, a corridor that connects the old police building and the new municipal building? Mr. SERVANCE. That’s right. Mr. HUBERT. And it has a sort of an accordianlike gate which spreads across the whole thing and runs from ceiling to floor? Mr. SERVANCE. That’s right. Mr. HUBERT. Does it lock? Mr. SERVANCE. It was locked this day, the 24th. Mr. HUBERT. It was? You know that to be a fact? Mr. SERVANCE. I made sure. I locked it and then doublechecked it in the morning. Mr. HUBERT. It was never opened, then, as far as you know? Mr. SERVANCE. No, sir. Mr. HUBERT. Now, what about the Main Street entrance? Mr. SERVANCE. Well, it was locked; no one went out there. Mr. HUBERT. And you know that to be a fact, too? Mr. SERVANCE. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. Now, what about the two elevators other than the service elevator? Mr. SERVANCE. They were cut off, completely off. Mr. HUBERT. How do you know that? Mr. SERVANCE. Well, every evening when I went there, every night they cut them off. Well, then, I tested them to see were they off. Mr. HUBERT. How did you test them? Mr. SERVANCE. Mashed the button to see if it don’t run. Mr. HUBERT. You tried on this morning to get--to make sure the elevators were cut off? Mr. SERVANCE. Their power is cut off. They are cut off. You have to go up on the penthouse on top and cut them off. Mr. HUBERT. They are cut off every night? Mr. SERVANCE. And on weekends. Weekends; yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. What other ways are there to get into the municipal building from the first floor? We have Commerce Street and Main Street. Mr. SERVANCE. They have the rear exit there. Mr. HUBERT. Tell us about that?