Warren Commission (13 of 26): Hearings Vol. XIII (of 15)United States. Warren Commission
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Warren Commission (13 of 26): Hearings Vol. XIII (of 15)
United States. Warren Commission
Kennedy, John F. (John Fitzgerald), 1917-1963 -- Assassination; Oswald, Lee Harvey
Mr. GRIFFIN. I made some notes during our interview I want to dictate
these for the record. I wish you would listen to them carefully, and if
there are any changes or corrections that you would like to make, I
wish you would tell me and we can straighten up the record on this.
I began talking with Mr. Eberhardt about how the FBI happened to
interview him on December 20, 1963, and he indicated that he believed
that it was a result of finding his telephone number in one of Jack
Ruby’s notebooks or on a scrap of paper. Mr. Eberhardt told me that he
had changed his telephone number and that the number which was actually
in Jack’s phone book was not the number that he had now. The reason for
the change was that, out in Seagoville, the telephone company became
a member or a part of the regular Dallas dialing district, and all of
the telephone numbers in Seagoville were changed, although there was no
actual physical change of any telephone. He also stated to me that he
had come to know Jack Ruby in connection with his work on the police
force, that while he was a member of the vice squad and while he has
been with the burglary and theft division of the police department, he
has had occasion to visit Ruby’s nightclubs. Now, he said that, since
he has been with burglary and theft, which has been since early 1962,
that he saw--went into Ruby’s place almost every night when he was on
the night shift, and I asked him when he was last on the night shift,
and he stated that he was on the night shift the month of October. Mr.
Eberhardt also----
Mr. EBERHARDT. That is going to be wrong.
Mr. GRIFFIN. All right. Speak to the reporter.
Mr. EBERHARDT. I am just trying to think. I told--I was working 3 to 11
when the President got killed.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Yes.
Mr. EBERHARDT. So that would be my night shift.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, during which shift did you go in to Ruby’s club?
Mr. EBERHARDT. I would be working 3 to 11 shift in November, the month
that the President got killed, but I hadn’t seen him in November, and
I had worked days in October and I hadn’t seen him in October, so it
would be August when I would have been up there.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Would it be September?
Mr. EBERHARDT. September. I was working 3 to 11 when the President got
killed, because I was home and heard it on television and came on to
work.
Mr. GRIFFIN. All right. Now, did you ever visit Jack’s clubs on a
social basis?
Mr. EBERHARDT. Yes.
Mr. GRIFFIN. And how frequently would you visit them on a social basis?
Mr. EBERHARDT. In the 5 years I knew him, I was at the Vegas Club about
three times with my wife.
Mr. GRIFFIN. How about the Carousel Club?
Mr. EBERHARDT. We went up there once and she wouldn’t ever go back. She
wanted to see what it was like.
Mr. GRIFFIN. How recently before the President was killed had you been
in the Vegas or Carousel Club?
Mr. EBERHARDT. Socially?
Mr. GRIFFIN. Yes.
Mr. EBERHARDT. It had been a long time, over a year.
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