Mr. EVANS. Well, I went up the stairs first, and he went up behind me, and we went up the first flight. I figured he lived on the first flight. I didn’t know where he lived, so, when we went around and went up the second flight he was right behind me, and I said, “How are you this morning?” And he ignored me like I didn’t--well, somebody going along with both arms full of laundry, I would open the door, because he was going up on the same floor, so, when he didn’t speak with me, I said, “Well, heck with you.” So, I walked on and he went in 207 there. Mr. HUBERT. He went in apartment 207? Was this laundry he had already clean, or what? Mr. EVANS. Well, they had a--they’ve got a washer and dryer in the basement in the apartment. Mr. HUBERT. He was coming up from the washateria? Mr. EVANS. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. And he went into apartment 207? Mr. EVANS. Yes. And, so, I went in. Two buddies were up, so, we ate breakfast and I went back to church at 11. Mr. HUBERT. Now, you had gone to try to catch the 10 o’clock mass? Mr. EVANS. Yes; but didn’t have at 10. Had to go at 11. Mr. HUBERT. At what time did you leave your apartment? Mr. EVANS. I left about a quarter of 11. Mr. HUBERT. I mean the first time? Mr. EVANS. About a quarter until 10. Mr. HUBERT. Quarter to 10? And you got there and found out mass was at 9:30? Mr. EVANS. No; it was 9. Just getting over. Mr. HUBERT. Just getting over, so you just came on back to the apartment? Mr. EVANS. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. How long was it between the time you left your apartment and--until the time you got back on the first round when you found out---- Mr. EVANS. Well, it only takes about six or seven blocks from the apartment. Mr. HUBERT. You were driving? Mr. EVANS. Driving. It takes less than---- Mr. HUBERT. So, you figure about 10 o’clock or a little before? Mr. EVANS. A little before 10. Mr. HUBERT. Now, have you subsequently seen pictures of Jack Ruby? Mr. EVANS. I have seen pictures. Mr. HUBERT. Have you seen him in person since? Mr. EVANS. That is the only time I ever seen him. Mr. HUBERT. You had never seen him before that date? Mr. EVANS. No, sir. Mr. HUBERT. Never since? Mr. EVANS. No, sir. Mr. HUBERT. Do you think that the man you saw that morning that you have just described was the same man that you have seen in the pictures? Mr. EVANS. Well, I really didn’t get a close look. All I know, he went in that apartment, and it is my understanding he had a roommate, but it might have been him. Mr. HUBERT. What I wanted to ask is whether or not the pictures that you have seen in the newspapers since of a person now known as Jack Ruby was the same man, in your opinion, that you saw with the laundry in his hands at about 10 o’clock on November 24? Mr. EVANS. Well, it could be. I mean, kind of--didn’t have real thick hair on top.