Mr. HUBERT. Can you relate it--I think I have asked you this before, but perhaps your memory is fresher now. Can you relate it to the time of the death of the President? Mrs. CARLIN. I would say 2 or 3 weeks before the death of the President. Mr. HUBERT. Do you remember a rather large heavy fat man, very heavily built, who used to come to the Carousel almost every weekend and used to sit close by the stage and sort of carry on a banter with the theatre? Mrs. CARLIN. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. Do you know who he is? Mrs. CARLIN. No; I don’t know who he is. But I remember him. He weighed about 300 pounds. Mr. HUBERT. Yes. Mrs. CARLIN. Used to beat on the stage and holler and scream. I don’t remember--I don’t know his name. I never did meet him, but I remember him. Mr. HUBERT. Did you know George Senator? Mrs. CARLIN. Not by name. I probably would know his face, but I don’t know his name. Mr. HUBERT. You don’t know what his relationship was to Ruby? Mrs. CARLIN. No. Mr. HUBERT. Then do you know--and I don’t mean from your own knowledge at all, but from what you might have heard, what Jack’s relationship in general with people of the opposite sex was? What his relationship with girls was? Mrs. CARLIN. No; I would rather not answer it. Mr. HUBERT. That is all right. Mind you, I want it clear I was not asking in relation to anything with respect to you yourself, but as to what you have heard? Mr. JACKSON. Did he ever make any advances towards you? Mrs. CARLIN. Yes; one time. Mr. JACKSON. In other words, he did do that with the girls occasionally--make advances toward them? Mrs. CARLIN. Yes. Mr. JACKSON. Proposition them? Mrs. CARLIN. Yes; I knew of them going with him. Mr. JACKSON. Dating them? Mrs. CARLIN. Yes. Mr. JACKSON. He did date them some? Mrs. CARLIN. Yes. Mr. JACKSON. Did you know or had you heard anything concerning the possibility of any kind of homosexuality on the part of Jack? Mrs. CARLIN. Yes. Mr. JACKSON. Is that just a rumor running out there, or what? Mrs. CARLIN. That was from his mouth. He was always asking the question, “Do you think I am a queer? Do you think I look like a queer? Or have you ever known a queer to look like me?” Every time I saw him he would ask it. Mr. JACKSON. Do you mean he would bring up the subject himself? Mrs. CARLIN. Yes; he would say, “Do you think I look like one or act like one?” Mr. JACKSON. Did he say he was? Mrs. CARLIN. No; he just asked me, “Do I look like one.” Mr. JACKSON. But he never admitted to you of being one? Mrs. CARLIN. No. Mr. JACKSON. Or ever made any statements that indicated that he was a homosexual? Mrs. CARLIN. Not to my knowledge. Mr. JACKSON. What you have told us here is all that you know about his abnormality, if any? Mrs. CARLIN. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. Can you throw any light upon his character with respect to whether he had a good temper or easygoing temper or quick temper? Mrs. CARLIN. He was very quick tempered.