Mr. LANE. Oh, no. There was, as I recall--like I say, I don’t always notice who comes in that office, because it is a stopping place for everyone, but as I remember, my previous customer, before Jack Ruby, turned around and left after the transaction. Ruby came up and was right there. He just handed me the money order, apparently he had come in while I was waiting on the other customer, because I believe there were only the two in the office. Mr. HUBERT. After the first customer left, there was only you and Ruby at the counter? Mr. LANE. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. You don’t remember anybody coming in? Mr. LANE. Well, there was nobody between that time. Mr. HUBERT. Well, do you remember anybody coming in while Ruby was there indicating in any way whatsoever that the transfer of Oswald was going to happen very shortly? Mr. LANE. Oh, no, no. Mr. HUBERT. Were you aware at any time between 10:30 and 11:20 that an armored car had driven up and been placed in the Commerce Street entrance of the jail? Mr. LANE. No, I was not. Mr. HUBERT. Is it possible for an individual who has a telephone, to send money by use of a telephone instead of filing an application personally and paying over the money in cash? Mr. LANE. Not an individual. Not just the ordinary telephone subscriber is not. Mr. HUBERT. I gather from your answer that in certain instances it is possible. Mr. LANE. It is possible by prearrangement only. Mr. HUBERT. Would you explain just what that would mean? Mr. LANE. Ordinarily a prearrangement is a money deposit--deposit with Western Union a certain sum of money and they are usually companies. In fact, most of ours are companies that make these deposits in order that they can phone that money order to be sent, we have money on deposit, we send it. Mr. HUBERT. It is a prepaid money order? Mr. LANE. A prepaid arrangement. Mr. HUBERT. All that happens over the telephone is the request that money already made on deposit be sent to a certain address? Mr. LANE. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. Is it possible to do it that way when no money is placed on deposit? Mr. LANE. Only on a prearranged basis. Sometimes we won’t require deposits if they are legitimate companies and a good credit rating with us. Mr. HUBERT. Do you know if Jack Ruby had any such arrangement? Mr. LANE. No; he did not. Mr. HUBERT. Is it normal for any individual to have it? Mr. LANE. No; it is very seldom. In fact, we don’t even have any in Dallas, individuals. Mr. HUBERT. Only companies? Mr. LANE. Only companies. Mr. HUBERT. Have you any kind of security device to be sure that the person calling is really authorized to be sending the money either on deposit or to be charged? Mr. LANE. Every money order called in is confirmed by telephone with certain individuals within the firm. Mr. HUBERT. That is by prearrangement also? Mr. LANE. That is by prearrangement.