Mr. SORRELS. No, sir. As a matter of fact, when I first heard Oswald had been shot, I understood the name to be Jack Rubin, and in my first report to my headquarters office I gave them the name of Jack Rubin--R-u-b-i-n, an operator of a nightclub. That is the first information I got. I just misunderstood the pronunciation of the last word. Mr. HUBERT. I think I have already asked this question in a general way--that is to say, you have covered the area in a general way. But I think for the record I should make it more specific. You have now come to know a man by the name of Jack Ruby, to the extent that you could recognize him, I suppose. Mr. SORRELS. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. Can you tell us whether you saw him in or about the police department building at any time after the President was shot, and until Ruby shot Oswald? Mr. SORRELS. I have no recollection of having seen a man whom I know now to be Jack Ruby before I saw him in the Dallas City Jail on the fifth floor. Mr. HUBERT. Now, we can pass, I think, for my purposes--and mind you, Mr. Stern might cover some of these areas again, but this is the way this is being handled. You did see Oswald, I think, on Sunday morning, November 24? Mr. SORRELS. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. Could you tell us where and at what time? Mr. SORRELS. That was in the office of Capt. Will Fritz of the homicide division of the Dallas Police Department. It was somewhere around 11 o’clock in the morning, and he was removed from Captain Fritz’ office at approximately I guess about 11:15. Mr. HUBERT. What was the purpose of your interviewing him that morning? Mr. SORRELS. We, of course, were interested in any statement that Oswald might make relating to any phase of the assassination of the President. Particularly, I was interested in trying to obtain an admission from him that he had used the name of A. Hidell as an alias, because information had been developed that he had purchased the rifle which was found on the sixth floor of the Book Depository under the name of A. Hidell. There was a change of address card which he had filed in New Orleans, as I recall it, on which it was shown that persons to receive mail at the address given, the name of A. Hidell appeared. And after Captain Fritz got through questioning him on the morning of November 24, he asked if any of the officers present in the room desired to ask him any questions. And I said, “Yes; I would like to ask him a question.” In the meantime, Chief of Police Jesse Curry had come to Captain Fritz’ office, and inquired about the delay in moving him out. And Captain Fritz informed that he was still talking to him. Mr. HUBERT. Captain Fritz informed---- Mr. SORRELS. Informed Chief Curry---- Mr. HUBERT. That he was or you were? Mr. SORRELS. That he was. And a very short time after that is when I had an opportunity to ask Oswald some questions. I showed Oswald the change of address card----