Mr. HUBERT. How long did you have to wait? Mr. LITCHFIELD. I think—30 or 45 minutes. Mr. HUBERT. And Jack came in? Mr. LITCHFIELD. The dog first, then him. Mr. HUBERT. Then, did he see you right away? Mr. LITCHFIELD. No, he walked by me because I was sitting right by the door and he turned and said something to the doorman first and then I think he went on back and put his hat up and came back to the doorman, and that’s when the doorman pointed me out—he walked over and said—just a moment—he had two or three other fellows to see him—I was sitting by the door—have you ever been in the Carousel? Mr. HUBERT. No, sir. Mr. LITCHFIELD. Well, I was sitting by the door like this, as you are walking in you have to turn left. There is an aisle and there was a fellow sitting back here by the pole with the light switches on it and there was a fellow sitting in front of me, and then there was the photographer who was there. I didn’t meet the photographer until after I had been introduced to Jack and Jack introduced me to him—some magazine for strippers like Male or Stag type magazine and he was taking pictures and he had to get releases from the strippers—some kind of a release they would have to sign so that he could take their pictures. Mr. HUBERT. You saw him getting the releases from the people? Mr. LITCHFIELD. Well, I saw how he came in and he had the releases in his hand. He said he had to get all of the girls to sign them and he said all of them would sign them except one. Mr. HUBERT. And that was when you were talking to Jack in his office? Mr. LITCHFIELD. In his office. Mr. HUBERT. The photographer came in and said that he had some papers in his hand which you understood to be releases? Mr. LITCHFIELD. No, he said he had the releases and had to go out and get them signed, and then he came back again and said all except one was signed. Mr. HUBERT. And it was on that occasion that you talked to Jack about buying the Vegas? Mr. LITCHFIELD. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. And he counteroffered by suggesting that you buy the Carousel? Mr. LITCHFIELD. Correct. Mr. HUBERT. Do I understand that that was the last time you saw Jack that night? Mr. LITCHFIELD. It was until I saw him on television—I happened to be playing poker then. Mr. HUBERT. Can you fix the time of that occasion with reference to particularly the death of the President, about how long before? Mr. LITCHFIELD. Well, like I said, it was probably the middle of October. Mr. HUBERT. Do you think it was about a month and a little bit before the death of the President? Mr. LITCHFIELD. He was killed the last half of November—maybe 5 weeks or 6 weeks—it was about the middle of October. Mr. HUBERT. I think you have previously stated that you saw a man in there on this occasion who you thought was Oswald?