Mr. GRIFFIN. I think in your earlier interview with Agent Sayres on the 25th, you indicated that you thought you had met him in about 1948. Have you had a chance to think since then so that your feeling now is that it was 1949? Mrs. NICHOLS. I don’t remember. I started going with him the latter part of 1949, and I don’t remember the exact date. It was several months after I first saw him before I ever went with him. I would say it was 1948, winter of 1948 and 1949, somewhere in there. Mr. GRIFFIN. Well, is there anything by which you place it? You mean that would have been late 1948, or early 1949? Mrs. NICHOLS. Yes. Mr. GRIFFIN. I see. Mrs. NICHOLS. I don’t remember the month. Mr. GRIFFIN. Any particular way that you place it at that period? Anything in your life that is significant that would place it in late 1948? Mrs. NICHOLS. No; I can’t remember whether the weather was cold or what I had on; whether I was wearing a coat. Mr. GRIFFIN. I mean the particular year. Anything happen during the year 1948 that sticks out in your mind so that you could date your meeting Ruby in relationship to that event? Mrs. NICHOLS. No; I can’t remember exactly when I first met him, first saw him. Mr. GRIFFIN. How old is your daughter? Mrs. NICHOLS. My daughter is 25. Mr. GRIFFIN. So if it were 1948, she would have been about 9 years old? Mrs. NICHOLS. Yes; that’s right. Mr. GRIFFIN. When you started to date Jack, how often did you see Jack? Mrs. NICHOLS. It’s been so long ago. I think at first I probably saw him about once a week, and then later on in the year or so, I would say about twice a week, was about the most I ever saw him. Mr. GRIFFIN. Was Jack the kind of man that had any family interests or seemed to show any interest in settling down? Mrs. NICHOLS. Well, in settling down? Mr. GRIFFIN. Yes; in getting married and raising a family and leading a conventional kind of married life? Mrs. NICHOLS. He talked about it some for a period of time. Not all the time I was going with him. Mr. GRIFFIN. How would you describe Jack in terms of his impressions and what he would look forward to and the kind of things he liked? Mrs. NICHOLS. Well, I think that Jack had a lot of drive. He was ambitious. He was always looking for some way to make money, some extra way to make money. Mr. GRIFFIN. Was there anything in particular that attracted you to Jack? Made Jack attractive to you? Any particular quality about him? Mrs. NICHOLS. He was very nice to me. He always treated me with respect. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did Jack, was he the kind of person that would unburden himself to you with his personal problems and background? Mrs. NICHOLS. Well, he talked to me about some of his problems. I don’t know that he talked to me about all of them, but he did discuss some of his problems with me. Mr. GRIFFIN. What kind of problems did he seem to have?