Mrs. NICHOLS. His sister-in-law has called me twice since that time. Mr. GRIFFIN. Would that be his sister-in-law? Mrs. NICHOLS. His sister-in-law, Sam’s wife. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you ever ask her why Jack called you that day? Mrs. NICHOLS. No; I didn’t ask her why. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did she ever indicate to you why he called you? Mrs. NICHOLS. No. Mr. GRIFFIN. When you talked with Jack, when you called him back at around about 2:15 or whenever it was, did you indicate to Jack that you were surprised to hear from him? Mrs. NICHOLS. No; I didn’t say anything to him about that, being surprised. Mr. GRIFFIN. The FBI reports here, Mr. Sayres’ report in his interview of January 18, that Ruby was apparently calling to tell you what a terrible thing he thought it was that President Kennedy had been assassinated. Was there some question as to what Ruby really, why he really was calling? Mrs. NICHOLS. Well, I was just surprised to hear from him. I don’t know why he called me. Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you remember what he said to you? Mrs. NICHOLS. I don’t remember the exact words, but the only thing, he just talked about what a terrible thing the assassination was. It was a very short, conversation. Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you remember any particular thing he said? Mrs. NICHOLS. No. Mr. GRIFFIN. Or words that he used? Mrs. NICHOLS. No; I don’t remember the words, the exact words that he used. Mr. GRIFFIN. Would you be able to tell me if he used the word, “terrible,” there? Mrs. NICHOLS. I don’t know whether he used the word, “terrible,” or not. But generally it was just, he was just upset about the assassination. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did he talk to you at all about the effect that the assassination would have on his business? Mrs. NICHOLS. No. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did he say anything particularly about President Kennedy? Mrs. NICHOLS. Well, he was talking about the assassination of President Kennedy. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did he have any, did he say anything about what effect it would have on the city of Dallas, the assassination? Mrs. NICHOLS. I don’t recall him saying that. Mr. GRIFFIN. Now do you have a regular lunch hour? Mrs. NICHOLS. Yes. Mr. GRIFFIN. What is your regular lunch hour? Mrs. NICHOLS. From 1 to 2. Mr. GRIFFIN. How do you place the time of the second telephone call that Jack made to you? Mrs. NICHOLS. In the evening? Mr. GRIFFIN. Yes. Mrs. NICHOLS. Well, it wasn’t late in the evening, and I had finished dinner and had my dishes washed and I was reading the paper. Mr. GRIFFIN. What time do you usually eat dinner? Mrs. NICHOLS. Well, I eat about 6. Mr. GRIFFIN. Was anybody living with you at home? Mrs. NICHOLS. No; I live alone. Mr. GRIFFIN. About how long does it usually take you to eat dinner? Mrs. NICHOLS. Well, I eat very slow in the evening. I usually listen to music and I usually spend about 30 minutes, I would say. I take my time and drink coffee and I sit at the table. Mr. GRIFFIN. What did he say to you when he called you?