I want to explain to you a little bit about what the purpose of the investigation is. The Commission has been asked to investigate, evaluate and report back to President Johnson upon all the facts surrounding the assassination of President Kennedy and the subsequent murder of Lee Harvey Oswald. We have asked you to come here this particular day, Mr. Patterson, because we understand that you have had some acquaintanceship with Jack Ruby. However, we are interested in anything that you might be able to tell about the assassination of the President or anything that you might think might be relevant to that. We have a certain set of procedures that we follow in conducting these depositions and in asking people to come here. I presume you got a letter, did you not, from the Commission? Mr. PATTERSON. Yes. Mr. GRIFFIN. Signed by Mr. Rankin? Mr. PATTERSON. Yes; I think it was. I have it in my pocket. That’s right. (Referring to letter.) Mr. GRIFFIN. When did you get the letter? Mr. PATTERSON. Saturday, it was I got it. Mr. GRIFFIN. Now also under the rules of the Commission I might explain to you that anybody who desires to appear here with an attorney has the right to do so, and we encourage people to do it. I notice that you are not here with an attorney, and I take it it is because you don’t have any desire to have one. However, if for any reason you think that you would want an attorney, or as this interview progresses you think you should want to be represented by an attorney, please feel free to tell me about it and we will postpone matters and continue the deposition at a later date. I presume by the fact that you are here without an attorney, that you don’t desire to have anybody represent you? Mr. PATTERSON. Well, I don’t think I would need an attorney, because I don’t think—I don’t know it was that important, so far as I was concerned. Mr. GRIFFIN. Well, I don’t see any reason why you should have one either, but I want to tell you this so that you understand that you do have a right to have an attorney, and I hope that if for any reason that you think you want to be represented, feel free to state that. Do you have any particular questions that you want to ask me about the deposition that is about to begin before I ask you to be sworn? Feel free to ask anything that comes to your mind, because I realize this is an unusual experience for everybody who appears here. Mr. PATTERSON. I don’t believe so other than how long? Mr. GRIFFIN. How long will it take? I don’t think it will take very long. I want to ask you to raise your right hand and I will administer the oath. Do you solemnly swear that the testimony you are about to give, will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God? Mr. PATTERSON. I do. Mr. GRIFFIN. Would you give the court reporter your full name? Mr. PATTERSON. Robert Carl Patterson. Mr. GRIFFIN. Where do you live, Mr. Patterson? Mr. PATTERSON. 902 East Waco Street.