Warren Commission (14 of 26): Hearings Vol. XIV (of 15)United States. Warren Commission
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Warren Commission (14 of 26): Hearings Vol. XIV (of 15)
United States. Warren Commission
Kennedy, John F. (John Fitzgerald), 1917-1963 -- Assassination; Oswald, Lee Harvey
Mr. HUBERT. They had started the Sovereign Club and they couldn’t get
along and Jack needed some money?
Mr. PAUL. Yes.
Mr. HUBERT. You loaned him some money, then, did you?
Mr. PAUL. Yes.
Mr. HUBERT. How much?
Mr. PAUL. Well, I think I loaned him for 3 months’ rent or 4 months’
rent—$550 a month, because that was the time he couldn’t pay the rent.
Mr. HUBERT. You loaned that in cash?
Mr. PAUL. No; I give him a check—not in cash.
Mr. HUBERT. You gave him a check?
Mr. PAUL. A check—I gave him a check.
Mr. HUBERT. Did he give you any evidence of indebtedness?
Mr. PAUL. No; the following year he gave me 50 percent of the club,
telling me that if the thing don’t go, the fixtures and everything
should represent my money.
Mr. HUBERT. You had no note about it?
Mr. PAUL. No; he gave it to me—I knew about it.
Mr. HUBERT. No; but did he give you a note?
Mr. PAUL. No.
Mr. HUBERT. Was there any kind of written agreement?
Mr. PAUL. It was a stock receipt.
Mr. HUBERT. That was a corporation?
Mr. PAUL. Yes.
Mr. HUBERT. And he gave you a stock certificate?
Mr. PAUL. That’s right.
Mr. HUBERT. Do you remember how many shares it was for?
Mr. PAUL. Five hundred.
Mr. HUBERT. Was that half of the corporation?
Mr. PAUL. Half of the place.
Mr. HUBERT. And he endorsed that over to you?
Mr. PAUL. Yes, yes; I think he did—he and Slayton—I think did.
Mr. HUBERT. And what was the consideration, that is to say, what money
did you pay for that?
Mr. PAUL. To open up the Carousel——
Mr. HUBERT. No; I’m talking about the Sovereign.
Mr. PAUL. The Sovereign was no consideration—just the stock deal, that
if anything happens to the club I should get some money out of it for
the fixtures.
Mr. HUBERT. Well, as a matter of fact you had actually loaned him 4
months’ rent at $550, whatever that is?
Mr. PAUL. About $2,200.
Mr. HUBERT. Yes; $2,200, so, was it considered that that loan or that
indebtedness was the consideration for the stock?
Mr. PAUL. That’s right.
Mr. HUBERT. Or, was the stock merely to secure it?
Mr. PAUL. That’s the security of that money—the stock was the security
of the money.
Mr. HUBERT. In other words, if he had paid the money back to you, he
was entitled to the stock?
Mr. PAUL. That’s right. In fact, he took the stock certificate one
time; he thought he would be able to sell the club.
Mr. HUBERT. I see.
Mr. PAUL. He thought he would be able to sell the club, so I give him
the stock certificates; you know—you deal with people in money, that’s
true, and you are very careful, but sometimes friendship overshadows a
lot of things.
Mr. HUBERT. I gather from what you say there that therefore there was
a close friendship between you and Jack. Did you continue during that
time on a friendly basis; that is to say, visiting at the Vegas or
Sovereign Club?
Mr. PAUL. Yes; we were always friends.
Mr. HUBERT. You think you saw him two or three times a week during that
time?
Mr. PAUL. Yes.
Mr. HUBERT. That would be from 1958 on?
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